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23K Tanks and Industry

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23K Tanks and Industry
Posted by XG01X on Sunday, December 4, 2005 6:33 PM
I have 3x 23k tanks and a open spot for industry; any ideas for this space.
I would like to shoot for one tank a day. My layout is set in 90's, urban, and the midwest. Some one tipped me to a Fuel dealer, but I don't real see these to much here. Any industry, factories, or so that would get just a 23k tank?
Thanks for the thoughts
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Posted by nbrodar on Sunday, December 4, 2005 7:01 PM
Any type of Petro-Chemical industry uses these type of cars. Manufacturing plants, distribution facilities, and mixing facilities are all possiblities.

Food processing plants use them to carry vegetable oil and the like.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 4, 2005 7:21 PM
A feed mill that makes "sweet feeds" that uses molasses and / or adds soybean oil to it's feeds or even delivers liquid supplement feeds. I happen to be an IT Manager at a cooperative that is surrounded by a Walmart, Lowes, a car wash in Virginia.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 4, 2005 7:22 PM
I used to work for Crest, (Proctor and Gamble), and they got all the sweetners in those tankers. they where shipped out of the Iowa city plant to the plant in Greensboro, NC.
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, December 4, 2005 7:34 PM
If the local water is no good, a brewery might get tankers of water. They'd also get loads of barley and hops, and then you can take your pick of beer-reefers going out. Many breweries actually bottle multiple brands, so there's room for several different reefers if you'd like. Pretty much any style building will do, from old-time to modern.

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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, December 4, 2005 10:26 PM
Asphalt related industries seem to have larger amounts of tankcars than other types of industries that take up the same amount of space.

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Posted by XG01X on Monday, December 5, 2005 12:10 AM
Outoguage tell me more about these liquid feeds, would this be a every day, weekly, or scarce move?
My back up looks to be a Veg oil bottler.
Good suggestions thanks alot guys
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Posted by nbrodar on Monday, December 5, 2005 6:42 AM
The Cargill plant we service, gets 4 or 5 tanks everyday. Both 16 and 23K.

Also, hard liquior bottles sometimes get shipments by rail.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 5, 2005 6:50 AM
An LP Distribution Center. LP gas goes in. Tons of small tanks a few big tanks to store the lp. Trucks will bring gas to people's houses.
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Posted by cwclark on Monday, December 5, 2005 9:07 AM
Plastruct has a refinery kit that you can build to go with your tanks, it's a hard kit to build but the outcome is very rewarding...there are also other refinery kits available..Faller , which sells Volmer kits also makes a very compact refinery kit that doesn't take much room and it also has good details ....chuck

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Posted by nbrodar on Monday, December 5, 2005 1:48 PM
LPG is usually shipped in special 65' 33K gallons tanks.

You could also have the industry be anything that uses large amounts of fuel oil for power.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 5, 2005 5:36 PM
The deliveries of liquids are mostly daily, ( our "sweet feeds" use 8% molasses, not to mention the oil.) we also get covered hoppers of brewers grains, distillers from Jim Beam, soybean meal, and oats from Canada, and load some outgoing cars with corn, soybeans and wheat. I have some pics around somewhere I will try to find them.
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Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 1:33 AM
I would guess it is illegal to ship LPG in general service tankcars.

In my opinion, the best looking refinery is Walthers's refinery. I appears to have larger distillation column and more process vessels than the others. Although it appears the Walthers kit is not in production currently. The Plastruct model does appear as though it might make a good Natural Gas Liquids (NGL) plant (natural gas fractionator).

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 3:02 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

Asphalt related industries seem to have larger amounts of tankcars than other types of industries that take up the same amount of space.


[#ditto]

I went to the Port Of Catoosa (East of Tulsa, Oklahoma) today because I to want to have an industry that utilizes tank cars. I have seen tons of tankers on the local that services the port twice daily. I found at least 5 or 6 different industries that had tank car loading facilities. That doesn't count the huge chemical plant across the channel (could not access it) Most had a few large storage tanks, some small storage tanks, piping to the loading rack, and the loading rack itself. Most were two tracks, averaging 4 to six cars deep.

The one I have chosen to model is an asphalt facility. It is pretty simple because it is a transfer facility to barges that run down the Arkansas River to the mighty Mississippi. After all it is a port.

The part of the chemical plant I could see had atleast 6 track, very long 10 to 20 cars deep and the loading area was seperated from the main plant, I have another section of my layout that I could model a smaller version of it. I like the idea because the plant is seperated from the loading area, thus I don't have to model a huge plant.

Hope that help.

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Posted by GAPPLEG on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 7:38 AM
In reference to the refinery above, I actually used the N scale refinery on an HO layout, Less footprint, and it still looks good. Plus it's cheaper than the HO version, properly placed you don't really notice the scalling problem, gives me a reason to have mulitple tank car tracks and lots of activity.

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