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DCC WICH IS THE BEST TO BUY BECAUSE I AM A 13 YEAR OLD BOY

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DCC WICH IS THE BEST TO BUY BECAUSE I AM A 13 YEAR OLD BOY
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 8:20 PM
YES !!THAT IS RIGH I AM AND I NEED TO KNOW WAT IS THE BEST DCC SYESTEM TO BUY I GET PAID GOOD ALLOWECE WEN I DO THINGS FOR MY PARENTS SO PLEASE HELP
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Friday, November 4, 2005 8:33 PM
How good an allowance? I am 15, and I am having trouble even dreaming of one. I t also depends on your layout. Could you tell us more about your situation?
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Posted by Javern on Friday, November 4, 2005 8:58 PM
Christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, time to post DCC pics on the frig , I suggest MRC Prodigy
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 9:08 PM
I would get the Digitrax Zephyr. The lenz 90 or 100 is good too but more expensive. NEVER get a prodigy or prodigy advance. Almost any DCC systems are good in thier own ways. The bachmann system is the bottom of the line and basically just runs trains. I have a zephyr and it works great. I have expanded it with more throttles, throttle panels and a booster along with a PC interface. But the system in the box is great to get started with. But Dont even get your locomotives near an MRC DCC system. The prodigy and prodigy advance sound tempting with lots of features at a low price but they are complete junk! We ordered a prodigy advance for the modules almost a year ago, hooked it up and started running trains. HUGE mistake. the thing randomly decides to stop running trains and maybe 10 seconds later will start up again. If you run a consist, all you can run is the consist and no other engines will respond. Not to mention the thing puts out 22-25 volts instead of the correct 16-18. After a couple months we had some decoders succumb to the beast so we sent it back to MRC. They sent us a brand new one and we had the same problems! Plus the programming interface is absolutely rediculous. Trust me, MRC makes some good DC power packs, but thier digital systems arent worth the box they come in. As I mentioned above I like the zephyr best, but if you go with MRC you are just asking for trouble.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 9:35 PM
If you're never going to run more than 12 locomotives, the digitrax Zephyr is for you.
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Posted by rolleiman on Friday, November 4, 2005 9:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JPM335

NEVER get a prodigy or prodigy advance.


Why don't you tell us what you REALLY think?? Did your locos take off like a bat out of he11 after that 10 second delay?? Like my MRC Command 2000 use to do??

Digitrax ever since..

Lenz basically invented DCC so you really can't go wrong with them..

NCE has a good following too...

Ask the parents to supplement the system for Christmas if you've not quite saved enough for a system..

Tonys Train Exchange or Loys Toys are good places to learn about basic DCC, what it does, terms, and compare systems.. Don't overlook the NMRA either..

http://www.nmra.org/standards/consist.html#standards-DCC

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 10:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JPM335

I would get the Digitrax Zephyr. The lenz 90 or 100 is good too but more expensive. NEVER get a prodigy or prodigy advance. Almost any DCC systems are good in thier own ways. The bachmann system is the bottom of the line and basically just runs trains. I have a zephyr and it works great. I have expanded it with more throttles, throttle panels and a booster along with a PC interface. But the system in the box is great to get started with. But Dont even get your locomotives near an MRC DCC system. The prodigy and prodigy advance sound tempting with lots of features at a low price but they are complete junk! We ordered a prodigy advance for the modules almost a year ago, hooked it up and started running trains. HUGE mistake. the thing randomly decides to stop running trains and maybe 10 seconds later will start up again. If you run a consist, all you can run is the consist and no other engines will respond. Not to mention the thing puts out 22-25 volts instead of the correct 16-18. After a couple months we had some decoders succumb to the beast so we sent it back to MRC. They sent us a brand new one and we had the same problems! Plus the programming interface is absolutely rediculous. Trust me, MRC makes some good DC power packs, but thier digital systems arent worth the box they come in. As I mentioned above I like the zephyr best, but if you go with MRC you are just asking for trouble.



Thanks for your timley advice, Im just about to take the jump into DCC and was temted with the price of the MRC advance, from my angle it looked like great value, but I dont need any more frustration......


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 10:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rolleiman

QUOTE: Originally posted by JPM335

NEVER get a prodigy or prodigy advance.


Why don't you tell us what you REALLY think?? Did your locos take off like a bat out of he11 after that 10 second delay?? Like my MRC Command 2000 use to do??

Good luck
Jeff
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Well that depends what speed you have them on. After the stop the train would jump back to its original speed setting. If it was going fairly fast than it was a big jolt.
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Posted by tstage on Friday, November 4, 2005 10:57 PM
elrod,

A few questions for you:

1. How much money do you have saved up?
2. What locomotives will you want to run using DCC?
3. Have you considered the cost of outfitting your locomotives with decoders?
4. Do you have a layout yet?
5. If not, do you have one planned?

If I were you, elrod, I'd concentrate on 4 & 5 first before spending $$$ on a DCC system. Otherwise, your DCC system is just going to be sitting in a box and/or collecting dust.

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Posted by cmulligan01 on Saturday, November 5, 2005 6:17 AM
If you have everything else set like someone before mentioned (state of your layout) the December MR has an article on choossing a DCC system with a chart for most of the systems out now. Maybe all of the systems are listed I'm not an expert. The club I belong to uses NCE and I enjoy it.

http://www.digitrax.com/

http://www.ncedcc.com/catalog1.html This will give you an idea on the price for decoders.
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Posted by Train 284 on Saturday, November 5, 2005 9:40 AM
Maybe the Bachmann E-Z command would work for you. I have it for my 4x8 and love it. There is also a 10 amp booster and walk around accessories you can add on later. Go to www.wholesaletrains.com and you can get a great price on it.
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Posted by tstage on Saturday, November 5, 2005 9:54 AM
elrod,

The Bachmann EZ Command is the most inexpensive DCC system on the market that you can purchase. I got mine form WholesaleTrain.com for slightly less than is presently advertised. Here's the direct link:

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/HOProducts2.asp?Scale=HO&Item=RGBVCW

It's a limited system but a decent one. It won't do all the things the more sophisticated DCC systems will do. But, it will get you into DCC - without breaking your piggy bank to do it. It gets my [tup] [tup] for a reasonably priced "get your feet wet" DCC system.

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Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Saturday, November 5, 2005 2:14 PM
As a fellow Teenager who knows the value of a hard earned dollar from my Parents, I would recomend the Digitrax Zephyr. It's got very little learning curve, and it's easy to use, and it's a fairly good value for the money. I wasn't sure about it when I first parted with my hard earned money, but in the end, I am awefully happy. About the only limitation is that you can only run up to ten engines at a time, but for me that's plenty. You also ahve the ability to add more throttle ports through the loco net system Digitrax offers; a thing I like because I can add a walk around throttle to the opposite side of the layout.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 3:01 PM
The Zephyr runs 12 at once.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Noah Hofrichter

As a fellow Teenager who knows the value of a hard earned dollar from my Parents, I would recomend the Digitrax Zephyr. It's got very little learning curve, and it's easy to use, and it's a fairly good value for the money. I wasn't sure about it when I first parted with my hard earned money, but in the end, I am awefully happy. About the only limitation is that you can only run up to ten engines at a time, but for me that's plenty. You also ahve the ability to add more throttle ports through the loco net system Digitrax offers; a thing I like because I can add a walk around throttle to the opposite side of the layout.

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Posted by accord1959 on Saturday, November 5, 2005 6:59 PM
Spend your allowance on a Tutor, you need the help spelling!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 7:16 PM
I should mention that the the Zypher can run 12 "consists" at once. That can be single locomotives or lashups of three or four units. Given the features of the system it can handle most small and medium sized layouts because the number of trains on the move at any one time is well within its capabilities.

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Posted by Don Gibson on Saturday, November 5, 2005 8:51 PM
The BEST one is the one you can afford , and learn from - all the thing's you will want your 2nd one.

No matter WHAT you buy, it WON'T have thing's you will want later on.
Listen to Tom Stage, who's been there.

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Don Gibson .............. ________ _______ I I__()____||__| ||||| I / I ((|__|----------| | |||||||||| I ______ I // o--O O O O-----o o OO-------OO ###########################
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 8:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by accord1959

Spend your allowance on a Tutor, you need the help spelling!!!!


Give him a break...

He could be the doctor operating on you some day....
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Posted by accord1959 on Saturday, November 5, 2005 9:09 PM
Kinda think 13 is not what he is, but thats only me. Just seems like the most obvious attempt at making somebody look 13 than I could ever imagine seeing.
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Posted by tstage on Saturday, November 5, 2005 9:14 PM
accord1959,

elrod (not his real name) has been on here in the past. I remember him asking a number of questions a few months ago about how to raise money to build a layout. I think elrod is who he says he is..."just not his real name". Sometimes you have to take people at face value...until they give you a good reason to think otherwise.

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Posted by accord1959 on Saturday, November 5, 2005 9:19 PM
Thanks Tstage, maybe just a little too picky tonight, I hope we can help!
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Posted by ereimer on Saturday, November 5, 2005 11:02 PM
first , i have 2 pieces of advice , but neither ot them have anything to do with DCC . they're also good advice for anyone reading here

1) if you're under 18 never announce your age on an internet forum , chat room , etc . there's way too many perverts out there who are just looking for victims (not that i think any of them would hang out around here , they'd probably find us pretty boring)

2) don't use all caps please it's considered shouting and is ugly . it's also a good idea to re-read your message before hitting the submit button , so you can fix spelling or typing mistakes

now about DCC . you really have to look at and compare the features of each system out there (there's an article in the Dec. 2005 Model Railroader that compares them all) . then ask our opinions about specific details to narrow down your search . what you've done here is the same as asking a large group of people what the best car is . the answer you get will usually be whatever the person owns (when actually the answer should probably be rolls royce or something that few people own because it's very expensive , and actually the best [:)]) . given the responses to various polls here i can tell you that 75 to 85 % of this group owns digitrax .

actually this is a very good group of people , and many will tell you the reasons they bought what they bought (and therefore consider the best) so the "which is best" question isn't quite as bad as i suggest

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 6, 2005 12:26 PM
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INFO
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Posted by grayfox1119 on Sunday, November 6, 2005 1:13 PM
Buy the best you can afford, you will not be disappointed.
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Posted by tstage on Sunday, November 6, 2005 2:46 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by elrod

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INFO

So, how many of you actually think that elrod read ALL the responses to his post? (...Yep, that's what I think, too.)

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 6, 2005 3:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mcdltd

He could be the doctor operating on you some day....


I dont like my chances then. [^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 6, 2005 4:56 PM
this is elrod .Elrod is NOT my real name .And ACCORD1959 or wat ever you need to stop pickin on a boy about 78 years younger than you l.o.l and i am serious!And YES i do read ALL of my responses. ACCORD1959 does it relly matter how i spell i do a lot of I.M ing ACCORD1959 this is NOT OVER!!!!!!!!
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DCC WHICH IS THE BEST TO BUY BECAUSE I AM A 13 YEAR OLD BOY
Posted by tstage on Sunday, November 6, 2005 5:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by elrod
And YES i do read ALL of my responses.

Sorry, elrod. Forgive me for my rash statement...[:(]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 6, 2005 5:24 PM
apolige accepted (thanks man you are much nicer than accored1959)
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 6, 2005 6:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by elrod

this is elrod .Elrod is NOT my real name .And ACCORD1959 or wat ever you need to stop pickin on a boy about 78 years younger than you l.o.l and i am serious!And YES i do read ALL of my responses. ACCORD1959 does it relly matter how i spell i do a lot of I.M ing ACCORD1959 this is NOT OVER!!!!!!!!



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