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I will never pay full price for a loco all I will have to do is go to Ebay and the brand new locos that come out are at least $25-50 cheaper than MSRP. And when they are out for a while you can get a KAto AC4400 on ebay for $85 and as low as $60 compared to $119 as a "sale" at the Hobby shops. Never buy MSRP
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