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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by JPM335 Well you can order it online. or they sell it at lots of train shows www.auran.com/TRS2004/default.htm Theres the website. By the way, for MSTS downloads try www.railserve.com [/quote] Thanks JPM335. That's really cool. But what I was talking about would be a 3-D layout simulator where you design your own layout from the ground up. You would lay the track the way you wanted it, pick the landscape, add the buildings, trees, lakes, etc. Then pick the engines and rolling stock you wanted to run. What I'm talking about may not exist for years to come-if ever. (Hope a designer is reading this...) Thanks anyway. trainluver1
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