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What is guage?
What is guage?
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electrolove
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February 2005
From: Sweden
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What is guage?
Posted by
electrolove
on Monday, August 8, 2005 11:40 AM
I'm trying to translate guage to Swedish. I have seen lots of guage talk on this forum when it comes to cables. For example: 12 guage stranded wire. Can someone please explain what that means so I know what to look for here in Sweden?
Rio Grande Zephyr 5771 from Denver, Colorado to Salt Lake City, Utah "Thru the Rockies"
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Monday, August 8, 2005 11:56 AM
its just a system for defining the *diameter* of a wire, or the bore of a shotgun, etc
its nothing more than a geometrical progression ..... it also used to describe the thickness of steel stock, etc
here's a quickie conversion for wire into mm ...
http://www.mogami.com/e/cad/wire-gauge.html
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cacole
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July 2003
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
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Posted by
cacole
on Monday, August 8, 2005 11:57 AM
Wire gauge denotes the diameter of the wire if it is a single strand, or the combined diameter for stranded wire.
Using your example of 12 Gauge, that means the wire has a bare diameter (with the insulation stripped off) of .0808 inches, or 6530 circular mils. This is the size in AWG (American Wire Gauge) measurement.
You should be able to find a chart somewhere on the Internet, perhaps through a Google search, of wire gauges in metric terms instead of the U.S. feet and inches.
By typing the phrase "Wire Gauge" into Google, I found all manner of charts and conversions available from around the world.
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electrolove
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February 2005
From: Sweden
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Posted by
electrolove
on Monday, August 8, 2005 12:07 PM
If I translate conductor size 18 AWG it will give me a diameter of 1.024 mm. Can someone confirm this?
This seems to be the bare wire with the insulation removed.
What is solid and stranded?
Rio Grande Zephyr 5771 from Denver, Colorado to Salt Lake City, Utah "Thru the Rockies"
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Anonymous
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Monday, August 8, 2005 12:14 PM
solid wire ..... a single strand of copper, aluminum, etc, within the insulation, that carries the current
stranded wire ...... many strands of wire, that add up to the gauge/diameter (approximately), within the insulation, that carries the current
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electrolove
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February 2005
From: Sweden
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Posted by
electrolove
on Monday, August 8, 2005 12:17 PM
Just found a nice conversion table on the net. Makes things a little easier for me.
Rio Grande Zephyr 5771 from Denver, Colorado to Salt Lake City, Utah "Thru the Rockies"
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electrolove
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February 2005
From: Sweden
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Posted by
electrolove
on Monday, August 8, 2005 12:26 PM
yardgoat46:
So this is a stranded wire?
And this is a solid wire?
Rio Grande Zephyr 5771 from Denver, Colorado to Salt Lake City, Utah "Thru the Rockies"
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cacole
Member since
July 2003
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
13,757 posts
Posted by
cacole
on Monday, August 8, 2005 12:45 PM
Yes, your top photo is stranded wire, and the bottom photo is two solid conductors.
It's really difficult to make out the top photo, but it appears to have two separate stranded conductors surrounded by a stranded wire shield, or is this just an optical illusion because of the camera angle.
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TomDiehl
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February 2001
From: Poconos, PA
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Posted by
TomDiehl
on Monday, August 8, 2005 12:46 PM
"Guage" is the common misspelling of "gauge." If you're trying to translate it, you may be having problems because of the missspelling.
Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to. Chief of Sanitation; Clowntown
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rexhea
Member since
July 2004
From: Southeast U.S.A.
851 posts
Posted by
rexhea
on Monday, August 8, 2005 12:55 PM
Electro.
Contact your local electrical supplier and ask them the conversion for USA wire to the standard that Sweden uses. Tell them you want the equivalent size wire to the American Wire Gauge (AWG) size 12. There are many electrical wire standards around the world (many based on cross-sectional area) and I am not sure which Sweden uses.
Rex "Blue Creek & Warrior Railways" http://www.railimages.com/gallery/rexheacock
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BR60103
Member since
January 2001
From: Guelph, Ont.
1,476 posts
Posted by
BR60103
on Monday, August 8, 2005 9:34 PM
I trust you noticed that the gauge number increases as the wire size decreases.
There are wires bigger than gauge 0; I think that streetcar lines used something like 0000.
--David
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 7:00 AM
So, Electrolove ....
Concerning that table that you posted ..... that is how you ask for wire in Europe? You might ask for "2.0 mm2" wire if you are doing work inside your house? Or, what terminalogy would you use when you ask for a specific size wire? Or will translation mess everything up here.
And, you mention your "crappy English." I read your posts, and I think you may speak better Engli***han I do! Lol. Certainly better than alot of people I know here in the US.
And, is it true that all the girls in Sweden have blonde hair and blue eyes, and so beautiful? And they just spend their days skiing in tight ski sweaters, and the evenings inside the ski lodge in a hot tub in a bikini? And they talk with that accent that drives me nuts? Please, tell me that it is all really true.
Jim
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electrolove
Member since
February 2005
From: Sweden
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Posted by
electrolove
on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 7:20 AM
yardgoat46:
Hahahahahah...
The grass is always greener on the other side, so I don't think Swedish girls are so special. But sometimes they can really [censored]
When it comes to wire it seems that here in Sweden they use mm (diameter).
Rio Grande Zephyr 5771 from Denver, Colorado to Salt Lake City, Utah "Thru the Rockies"
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Anonymous
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April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 7:35 AM
And Yardgoat, whose wife is pregnent? Looking to sleep in the train room forever? Keep it up and the lawyer will insist that your wife get all the trains and the internet connection!
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Anonymous
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April 2003
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 8:19 AM
Those dang divorce lawyers will have to pry my HO engines from my cold, dead hands!
I think my wife gets a kick out of this little mental defect I have concerning trains and railroading. Although, I'm not really sure if she is laughing with me, or at me.
My wife knows that when I met her ..... I changed from loving petit, blonde girls ..... to loving taller, Italian looking girls like her.
Once in a while my eyes wonder, but she is quick to give me a slap in the back of the head, and I snap out of it.
Jim
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Jetrock
Member since
August 2003
From: Midtown Sacramento
3,340 posts
Posted by
Jetrock
on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 7:53 PM
"Gauge" can mean any number of things:
* The diameter of wire
* The distance between rails on a railroad
* A meter for measuring something (like an air gauge)
But yeah, there is no "guage" except for lmisspellings and typos...
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electrolove
Member since
February 2005
From: Sweden
2,082 posts
Posted by
electrolove
on Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:31 AM
It seems that they describe cables in Sweden by area (mm2). Can someone please confirm the following numbers?
AWG 18 = 0.8 mm2
AWG 12 = 3.3 mm2
I just looked at elfa.se, that is Swedens biggest store when it comes to cables and things like that. But it seems inpossible to know what to use. It's just too many cables to choose from. Is the quality important? What makes a good cable good? I think I will move to the US soon, hehe...
Rio Grande Zephyr 5771 from Denver, Colorado to Salt Lake City, Utah "Thru the Rockies"
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Jetrock
Member since
August 2003
From: Midtown Sacramento
3,340 posts
Posted by
Jetrock
on Monday, August 15, 2005 9:39 PM
Those conversion measurements seem about right.
One point of nomenclature: typically things that thin are called "wires" rather than cables--"cable" generally refers to very heavy, thick wires, whereas when one refers to the things in an electronic device, the term "wires" is used.
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