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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by ennout That's what I thought, but I see some of these new loco's have something different on them. I am not sure of what the name was now. I 'll have look again. [/quote] As I mentioned, they are Kadee clones - plastic versions of the Kadee coupler that are cheaper for the manufacturers to install on new equipment. They should all work with Kadees and with each other, although they may not be as reliable with their plastic springs and bodies. There have been reports of these clones not closing properly after being coupled together for some time, as the plastic springs may loose their tension. Bob Boudreau
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