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US Government to Recall all Dimes

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Posted by grandeman on Saturday, May 28, 2005 8:49 AM
Dave, thanks for the explanation. It helps shed some light on things. We have, no doubt it, the best system going. I just wi***here was less greed by all out there. It's nice to know there's guy like you out there doing it right.
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Posted by davekelly on Saturday, May 28, 2005 3:47 PM
grande,

Thank you for the compliment, but believe me the vast majority of the attorneys I've met are decent people who actually want to do the right thing. We have a great system. Unfortunately reporting when the system works makes for very boring press. It's kind of like I've never seen on the news a story about a train that makes its trip without an accident.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:05 PM
[:D] Hey G Bailey, did you make your rocket fuel , using charcoal brikets, sugar, and salt peter like My brother & I did? It put our rockets out of site!!!! Terminal.
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Posted by DMNolan on Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse

State potential for lawsuit if swallowed. In a similar move, US Steel is stopping production of all screws and bolts smaller than 1/2" in diameter.

"It's just not worth the risk," says a spokesman for the Treasury Department.

Penny and nickels will not be affected.



I see we have2 pages of discussion on this "news." I am willing to admit I may have missed these news stories and press releases. Can you post a link to this "news". Maybe it is on the Treasury Department and US Steel web sites.

Or maybe this is just another internet rumor. Since the US Government has immunity for many claims against it, I doubt the treasury deprtment is worried about the potential for a lawsuit over swallowed dimes. How many deaths a year occur becuase of swallowed dimes? Not that many, when you consider how many dimes are in circulation and how many people use them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:15 PM
DMNolan - I believe the post was a joke, based upon the news that an auto mfr will no longer license replica cars smaller than 1/64 - due to danger of choking.

Rob
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Posted by dave9999 on Sunday, May 29, 2005 11:44 PM
Does anyone remember the little yellow pocket knives that you used to
could get out of the gumball machines? Well... when I was very young,
not only did I get one, but I swallowed it! My mom still has the X-Ray photo
showing the knife in my belly. Thankfully it passed though without problems.
And yes, it was closed.[xx(]

It's funny that this topic came up... me and my mom were talking about the
"little yellow pocket knife incident" just the other day. Dave
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Posted by dave9999 on Sunday, May 29, 2005 11:47 PM
Oh yeah DMNolan, Spacemouse's original post was simply a joke... nothing more. Dave
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Posted by rexhea on Sunday, May 29, 2005 11:50 PM
Dave, if that happened now, your Mother would be sent to prison for child neglect.
BTW: Do you have to take a lot of Alka-Seltzer now?? [(-D][(-D]

ROLL TIDE!

REX
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Posted by dave9999 on Monday, May 30, 2005 12:03 AM
Rex,
A lot of things that are major issues today were just a part of life years ago. I remember
getting my butt beat in the grocery store... in front of everyone! Try that with a kid today and
you will be in jail before you get your point across.[:-^] I know my dad got his point
across when he needed to. Now days, you have kids sueing their parents[%-)].

And no I don't take Alka-Selser... although, I eat a lot of Tums. But that may have something
to do with the fact that I go through close to a bottle of Lousiana Hot Sauce a week... man, I
love that stuff. Dave

BTW, Are you ready for Urban Renewal?? See ya in T-Town.
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Posted by rexhea on Monday, May 30, 2005 12:38 AM
DAVE
What?? Not Texas Pete Hot Sauce??

Yes, where have gone:
The toys from Japan made from U.S. beer cans with sharp edges.
The cap pistols for playing Army or Cowboys and Indians
The used and rusty nails good for making tree houses on precarious tree limbs.
The old bicycles that have long lost their chain guard.
The cuts and bruises that after a slight wimper, became merit badges of courage.
The bumps on the noggen from a taped up baseball hit with a broken bat.
The dirty face and hands of a kid that comes home from play with a smile of accomplishment.


It is hard for me to believe that a huge corporation would be so petty as to worry about child safety of a model car made for modelers and not as a toy for children. GEEZ! I think they need to worry about bigger kids driving +300 hp cars. There must be a hidden reason behind all this. (I hope [sigh] )

It must be they same bunch that ban smoking in football stadiums, but don't mind breathing the fumes at a race track or behind a city bus.

Oh Dave, I sure am hungry for some Gator meat. Ha!
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Posted by selector on Monday, May 30, 2005 1:07 AM
I have been away and have not the time to read all of the posts, so please bear with me if I repeat: anyone remember the lawn darts scare? How about radiation from your computer monitor and any other cathode-ray tubes?

Anyone sued Kraft when they lost a filling eating Karamels?

I'm thinking of suing my dentist for all of the discomfort I had when I last visited.

Sheesh!!
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Posted by dave9999 on Monday, May 30, 2005 1:13 AM
Ahhh... Lawn darts. There was a brilliant idea.[:D] Let's throw giant sharp pointed darts
high into the air and see where they stick. HEY! Look out for the dog!

OTOH, they sure were fun! Dave
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Posted by Leon Silverman on Monday, May 30, 2005 9:27 AM
The solution is to package all of these little items into child proof prescription bottles with opening instructions folded up inside the bottle. Then Model Railroader could run an article on how to open the bottles.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 30, 2005 10:58 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by terminal

[:D] Hey G Bailey, did you make your rocket fuel , using charcoal brikets, sugar, and salt peter like My brother & I did? It put our rockets out of site!!!! Terminal.


Yep !!! [:)]

Although just sugar and potassium nitrate will work great if done right, too !!!! [:D]

In those days (age 10), I could also go down to the local 7-11 and get cherry bombs and M-80s year round ! [8D]

Now days, you have to break the law in many places to celebrate on even the 4th [V]

As a boy I had my own .22 and 4-10 (but could only use them with my father until I got to be older).

And, of course, a pump BB gun (which I could and did use all the time).
Must have gone thru a million BBs !!!

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Posted by Eriediamond on Monday, May 30, 2005 11:21 AM
Seems like we went from a dime recall to comparing now to the past. How ever law suits are really nothing new. I have a few things that belonged to my Dad that passed back in the 70's. Among those things is an old car key holder made like a wallet. In that holder is a reciept from an insurance company and that piece of paper has explicit instructions to NOT let anyone know you have insurance except the police officer investigating the accident. Isn't that strange?? I don't blame lawyers for todays situation as much as I do the public. In my opinion most people don't want the resposibilty in raising kids or take resposibility for there own actions. In my childhood days, it was my parents job to raise me and teach me right from wrong. Sometimes it took a little pain on the lower back side and it worked just fine. We also didn't have all the laws and such we have now, the governments job was running the country's business, not running the public's lives. I realise the dime thing was meant as a joke, but how close are we to it not being a joke? The GM thing of not being able to produce HO scale cars should be the parents responsibilty to keep them out of their kids mouth, not GM's. I need to get off this soapbox before I really get wound up. Thanks Ken Sorry about the rambling
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Posted by davekelly on Monday, May 30, 2005 2:16 PM
Eriediamond,

How true.
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Posted by Jetrock on Monday, May 30, 2005 6:23 PM
The fact that the "dime recall" urban legend is believable at all is because it contains a speck of truth--the growing "cult of child safety" seems obsessed with putting rubber bumpers on the entire planet in order to avoid any chance that a child might be injured in body or mind. Funny how when those kids turn 18 I imagine we'll still expect them to join the Army and suddenly be exposed to all sorts of risks more dangerous than dimes...
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Posted by davekelly on Monday, May 30, 2005 8:58 PM
Jetrock,

Interesting thought. Is this obsession a possible cause of younger folks today not knowing that playing in train yards is dangerous?
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Posted by grandeman on Monday, May 30, 2005 9:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

The fact that the "dime recall" urban legend is believable at all is because it contains a speck of truth--the growing "cult of child safety" seems obsessed with putting rubber bumpers on the entire planet in order to avoid any chance that a child might be injured in body or mind. Funny how when those kids turn 18 I imagine we'll still expect them to join the Army and suddenly be exposed to all sorts of risks more dangerous than dimes...


Interesting and well stated.
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Posted by bcawthon on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:29 PM
QUOTE: edited from Eriediamond's original post

I don't blame lawyers for todays situation as much as I do the public. In my opinion most people don't want the resposibilty in raising kids or take resposibility for there own actions. In my childhood days, it was my parents job to raise me and teach me right from wrong. Sometimes it took a little pain on the lower back side and it worked just fine. We also didn't have all the laws and such we have now, the governments job was running the country's business, not running the public's lives.


I mostly agree with your position, but sometimes there is a very fine line between protecting those who need it and "running people's lives."

While we all wax poetic about our lost youths filled with running around with scissors and other risky stuff, allow me to note one little fact: According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Bureau of Vital Statistics, childhood deaths from unintentional injuries have declined substantially in the last fifty years. I think a lot of us forget just how many of our peers didn't make it to adulthood. I had a friend in school who was quite the chemist until he blew his arm and half his face off.

So perhaps some of the laws and even some of the lawsuits have helped make the world a bit safer, especially for the youngest children. After all, if parents won't protect their children, someone has to. And that someone is the government, acting to promote the general welfare, just as the founding fathers intended.

That's why I think GM's heart may have been in the right place, although their head obviously wasn't. So I would urge GM to modify their position to require that licensed replicas smaller than 2.5 inches be distributed only through hobby channels.

GM does not face any real liability in any case, but it would be nice to insulate the modelmakers and perhaps protect some children from idiots who are adult only by virtue of their age.

Don't forget: It's easier to recall dimes than dolts.
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Posted by davekelly on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:15 PM
Well said.

I'm sure you'd love this bumper sticker I saw the other day. "Partnership for an Idiot-free America."
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