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When you ask for an opinion, don't be offended if it is different from what you want. If you want someone to agree with you only, then tell them that's what you want. I have a Walthers loco and it will pull the paint off the wall but it is noisy and I never have to wonder if it's moving. I swore that I'd never own an Athearn loco because I think they are junk, which they are compared to my brass locos. I am now the owner of 14 Genesis "F" units all in warbonnet and will probably buy any more that come out. With Soundtraxx decoders in the lead "B" unit and Digitrax decoders in the outher three units they sound and look great. Have a happy new year Bob
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