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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by pastorbob my layout has been down and running for 15 years. I use large radius Peco and Shinohara only. My fleet of 175 plus diesels run over it in heavy operating sessions with no problems, my freight cars, including auto racks, COFC. etc, run over it with n o problems. I purchased two BLI ATSF 4-8-4 just because they were steam and Santa Fe. both derail often on Peco switches going through the straight side. My points are filed, alignment is checked anytime there is a problem, nothing found In the meantime, the railroad runs fine with diesel, so after some soul searching, I canceled the order I had for the Santa Fe 2-10-2 coming, and will buy no more BLI steam (or diesel since I don't like their looks as well). As a PS, the two northerns have a nasty habit of requiring the decoder to be reprogrammed when they derail. They have a total memory lapse. Bob [/quote] If you have not sent them back allready I heard of a problem with the third set of drivers the bearing not seating properly causing binding problems.I don't know if this issue might be causing your 4-8-4 to derail,maybe the driver is wobbling thru the switch allowing it to catch the point?I have several BLIs my only problem child so far has been the Hudsons,I think that BLI produces some great engines but I do not think they are without there share of problems.I have never had the reprograming problem with any of my BLIs could it be possible that the engine going into the switch is losing power ,bad pickups on engine or decoder is causing a surge to the motor.I think I would send them back.Terry
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