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double heading
Posted by NZRMac on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:08 PM
How many 40' coal hoppers can I pull (realistically) before I should run two loco's, SD40-2's.

Thanks Ken.
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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:33 PM
From your signature, I thought you'd be asking about double headed steam. Hmmm.

Who makes the SD40-2? Do you have any grades? Many sharp curves? Empty hoppers?
On flat land, I say 35 loaded hoppers before straining.

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Posted by NZRMac on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:37 PM
Aggrojones

BLI makes the loco's, 2.5% grades, 20ish" turns, HO, empty and full hoppers.

I kinda meant prototypically how many before they would MU?

Ken,
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Posted by jwr_1986 on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:49 PM
Aggrojones was right to ask because the prototype would be taking that all into account. They try to run exactly the amount of power they need. Otherwise it's a waste of money for them. You might be able to answer your own question by going to www.railpictures.net and looking up a unit coal train pulled by SD40-2's and counting the cars. Personally I'm interested in the nuber as well.

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Posted by METRO on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:52 PM
for modeling purposes with selective compression I'd say any more than 15 cars and I double up, at least that's the rule I use.

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Posted by NZRMac on Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:08 AM
I've been running 10-12 cars and one loco, I'm just starting on the coal mine yard, and wanted to put a loco run around track, so I may need room for two loco's.

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Posted by dinwitty on Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:18 AM
weight of train and power says how many engines to use plus any grades.
Use the same concept for the model.

Or just doulble up anyways to make sure...


If a train couldnt make it up the hill, they would double up the train, take half the train up, come back for the rest.

oh the fun of operating....

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Posted by Virginian on Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:50 AM
Keep in mind a lot of the prototypes use multiple locos whether they need them or not for the pulling power, just so that a unit failure doesn't disrupt traffic flow on the system. CSX has one old two loco lash up around here I don't think they ever seperate, even on 9 car trains.
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Posted by Don Gibson on Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:03 PM
Too may variables (Multiple answer's).
Weight of engine = weight of cars...
PLUS
truck friction (rolling)
empties vs 'loads'

You basically add cars until the wheels slip.
Want to pull more cars? - Use freer rolling trucks.
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Posted by NZRMac on Friday, March 18, 2005 12:51 AM
Thanks everybody, I'll make my run around track big enough for aleast two loco's

Ken.

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