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[quote user="BRAKIE"]Mark,Back in the 60s I had a United Santa Fe 1950 class 2-8-0 that would creep from fiber tie to fiber tie. My United UP 0-6-0 would do the same.[/quote] Yes but just these locomotives are more than 50 years older now. If the were run a lot they might need a gear replacement now and the wheel treads might be pure brass now. If they weren't run there is a good chance one needs to remove resinified grease. The running gear might got bend and so on. Regards, Volker
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