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[quote user="oldline1"] Hi, Mike. I don't recall complaining about the money but whatever any group costs should provide some value to the member. I felt the cost of my Enemaray membership wasn't giving me anything. Being in the Navy attending conventions wasn't possible for a few obvious reasons. Therefore for my $$$ I basically was depending on the Bulletin for my value. It was a great magazine at the time with many articles and plans one could use. Eric Bracher and others were eagerly sought after in every issue. Then someone got cute and made a joke about the biffys and it became a contest every month to design new and exciting ones to the exclusion of most everything else in the magazine. Sorry but month after month of that immature drivel just made me think seriously when renewal time came around. I've never been rich or expected a huge return on an investment but when you pay and receive nothing of use or value it's time to leave the party. I agree 100% with your statement that each division is different. In the Navy I joined in with the Tidewater VA folks and they were generally very helpful, kind and generous. I always felt welcome and got warm fuzzies from them. When I moved to the DFW area I just never had time to get involved with them there but knew several and they were about the same. I then moved to Scum City and I found them to be very different. They were cold, not very friendly and seemed to have the elite mentality. If you weren't one of "them" you weren't S***. In my 35 years there I observed personally and through observation and talking with others the feeling and attitude of them and us. That made for less than warm feelings and a desire to wanting to join the group again. I actually did sign up again though just to get the Bulletin. Wow, that was a surprise. The issues I received were less than crap and a waste of paper. SO.........yes.........I don't care for the Enemaray at all and will never send them another check.  Maybe it's not fair to judge the whole by a part but it left a nasty taste in my mouth to be treated and see others treated that way for so long. Maybe they're working on some new legislation for a new DCC replacement or something but I can't see me forking over $75 every year for that. I am glad for what they did in the past but can't see paying homage to them forever for it.  I'm glad you enjoy being a part of it. I don't begrudge you or anyone that wants to be a part of it. At the same time many of us (obviously a large and growing number) feel it's just not for us. Whatever. I don't feel the need for any redress toward me. I paid willingly and got whatever I was expecting. The Enemaray doesn't owe me anything and alternately.....I don't owe them anything. I just want no part of them. I know there are a lot of dedicated folks working for them and their cause which is fine with me. I just think in fairness that whenever you guys start beating your tomtoms and bragging about the Holy Enemaray the opposite point of view needs to be told too. Every story has two sides. oldline1 <div style="clear:both;"> </div> [/quote] When were you last a member?
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