I want to put all weather windows on an HO Atlas RS-1. The windows I used on my Athearn RS-3 don't fit. Does any company offer the correct window?
Mark Hendershott
Calapooya Does any company offer the correct window?
Were these windows installed by the locomotive manufacturer, or installed by the railroads with "aftermarket" parts?
Looking through pictures of "all weather windows", there does not seem to be a lot of uniformity.
-Kevin
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Calapooya I want to put all weather windows on an HO Atlas RS-1. The windows I used on my Athearn RS-3 don't fit. Does any company offer the correct window? Mark Hendershott
Might be easier to reduce search time if you told us which window you tried to use.
I thought apparent the if the windows for an Athearn RS3 don't fit that I tried Athearn windows.
The Alcos operated by SP&S seem to have all had these windows. Whether factory or added later I don't know.
I used these, that were from Detail Associates (part number229-2301)...
Prior to those, I used a small sheet of clear acrylic plastic, cut-to-size with a razor saw, and polished using very fine sandpaper. I then used masking tape to cover the window panes, then brush-painted the portions that represented the steel bodies...
I still have what's left of the clear sheet of acrylic plastic, just in case I decide to add some diesels to my late '30s layout.
Wayne
CalapooyaI thought apparent the if the windows for an Athearn RS3 don't fit that I tried Athearn windows.
So these are windows that were supplied with an Athearn model, is that correct?
As far as I'm aware, the Detail Associates all-weather windows were after-market items, while my original all-weather windows were homemade.The acrylic sheet was labelled as Plexi-Glass, and is 1/8" thick, and covered with stuck-on paper on both sides...likely to prevent scratches.I used a very fine file and some really fine sandpaper to polish the windows of the front and rear home-made all-weather windows, while the side windows needed no polishing at all.
As far as I'm aware, there are no wider all-weather windows available, but I'm still using mostly steam locos, so no need for the Detail Acssociate ones for me.
Edit: You might be able to use two pairs of the Detail Associates all-weather windows, cut carefully to create wider all-weather windows
Some samples shown here:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ho+scale+all+weather+window&qpvt=ho+scale+all+weatther+window&form=IGRE&first=1&cw=1903&ch=937
They are Athearn parts bought on ebay. Had locating pins on the back but no corresponding dimples on my loco.
Detail Associates part no. 2301 is for EMD GP & SD locos. Unkown if it might also fit the Alco.
CalapooyaThey are Athearn parts bought on ebay. Had locating pins on the back but no corresponding dimples on my loco.
Couldn't you just drill matching holes in your RS-1 cab to align with the locator pins on the Athearn windows? Or am I missing something?
Tom
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The problem is that the Alco RS1 windows are a different size than the RS3.
MH
Simply stated, the question is this:
What after-market all-weather window fits the Atlas RS-1?
It does look like the Atlas RS-1 windows are quite a bit wider than any of the all-weather windows I'm familiar with, even the Athearn wide one which is pretty wide. I wonder if when real railroads added all-weather windows to these if they added some type of filler on either side so a standard after-market window would fit?
Athearn offers a three-pane all weather window (is that what you call them, three-pane?) in a multiple pack set.
I would file off the nubs and just stick the windows on with Eileens tacky glue. I'm finding uses for that stuff that I never considered before.
If the RS-1's window opening is too wide, you might be able to add some trim pieces to the Athearn window (I'd booger the window before I'd booger the loco's opening).
As another has said, I think most of these window additions were railroad added. How they added them to a loco may not be uniform from one loco to the next anyway.
- Douglas
Coming at it from the prototype angle, does anyone have a link to a prototype RS-1 with an all-weather window? Seeing that might give us an idea on what could be used.
I recall years back someone modelling a caboose that had a very wide all-weather window, they used a convential HO plastic window (like you'd use for a structure window) turned sideways.
wjstix Coming at it from the prototype angle, does anyone have a link to a prototype RS-1 with an all-weather window? Seeing that might give us an idea on what could be used. I recall years back someone modelling a caboose that had a very wide all-weather window, they used a convential HO plastic window (like you'd use for a structure window) turned sideways.
Not the prototype, but I have an article by Clark Probst on superdetailing an Atlas RS-1 for the M&StL. In the article he does address the All Weather Windows the railroad uses and has some pictures of the windows that were made and their application to the model.
Sorry for the poor reproduction but I do not have the PDF of the article anymore just the printout.
Hope this helps as I fear no one has an all-weather window for RS-1's.
Rick Jesionowski
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What prototype railroad - would help the photo search
CalapooyaThe Alcos operated by SP&S seem to have all had these windows.
Returning to model railroading after 40 years and taking unconscionable liberties with the SP&S, Northern Pacific and Great Northern roads in the '40s and '50s.
I'm gonna show my ignorance here, but it seems to me you could take some clear lucite or fiberglass, cut to size and with some judicious masking, hit with it with some paint to create the framing, let dry and glue in place. BTW, you might want to check to see what our cousins in aircraft and maritime modeling have available both in terms of products and materials. Here'a a start Amazon.com : long square clear acrylic plexiglass lucite plastic rod
BEAUSABREI'm gonna show my ignorance here, but it seems to me you could take some clear lucite or fiberglass, cut to size and with some judicious masking, hit with it with some paint to create the framing, let dry and glue in place.
For the framing, you might also try cutting some plastic sheet to size, painting the pieces and fastening them to the lucite