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[quote user="wjstix"]I don't know about that. I started in HO in 1987. At that time, outside of normally unpainted and poorly running brass, about the only options for RTR steam were Mantua, who had some newer designs and some old ones going back to the 1950's, or Life-Like or Bachmann plastic - sometimes decent looking models, but poor motors and pulling power. For kits, you had MDC/Roundhouse or Bowser; not terribly detailed or particularly easy to build and get running well. You were just starting to get things like Bachmann-Spectrum's GP-30 (which was considered "state of the art" then, but now is part of their cheaper, less detailed line) or the first Proto models from Life-Like. Atlas and Stewart were making good diesels, but they weren't as detailed as they would be - you often had to drill out holes to add handrails or the correct horn and such - if you wanted to "super detail" them. It's really only been relatively recently that you have the range of good running / well detailed engines we have now.[/quote] My mistake, I only looke at was available in the European markets 30 years ago, which was as detailed as you get it today, including well performing drives. As for the Polar Express, I agree to the statement saying ist´s a model of the movie train - and not a model of the real world!
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