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Gauging locomotive wheels

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Gauging locomotive wheels
Posted by Dave K on Sunday, January 23, 2022 5:37 PM
Does anyone have a procedure for this?  For steam, can the front and rear wheels be re gauged while in the trucks?  ow is this done?  Same for the tender?
 
The same for diesels.
 
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Posted by snjroy on Monday, January 24, 2022 9:34 AM

For steam, I would only say that if you are dealing with brass, you need to be very careful. These parts can be very fragile. In some cases, there are little screws that allow dismantling - I would do that if I were to apply force on a wheelset. I have two engines with broken trailing wheel trucks (from previous owners), and these are not easy to fix or replace. 

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Posted by Dave K on Monday, January 24, 2022 12:56 PM

There is a tool made for this.

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Posted by snjroy on Monday, January 24, 2022 3:06 PM

What tool? I am not aware of any tool that allows you to re-gauge wheels that are still on their trucks. Apart from a gauge, of course. 

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Posted by snjroy on Monday, January 24, 2022 3:09 PM

Lastspikemike

Diesels have half axles press fitted into the central gear. You can change the gauge by twisting the wheels relative to each other and either pressing in or pulling outwards, in theory. I've not tried this. I'm pretty sure it's hard to move the gauge.

For some diesels it might be easier to buy already gauged wheelsets with gears installed. Walthers sells some types and Athearn sells gears, not sure about wheelsets.

 

Yes, you can easily adjust the wheels of diesels, by twisting them, to ensure that they are in gauge. In most cases, it's a cinch to remove the wheels from the trucks. 

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Posted by Dave K on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:15 AM

A German Co. Fohrmann Werk makes a fixture for such and NW Short Line makes something similar.

 

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Posted by 7j43k on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:28 AM

The OP appears to have stated that he wants to do this task while the wheels are in place on the locomotive, or at least still mounted in their truck frames.  NOTE HIS USE OF THE PHRASE: "...while in the trucks."  

I printed this in ALL CAPS because it appears (some) people don't want to read that on which they are expressing opinions.

The NWSL tool cannot do this.  The Fohrmann Werk tool cannot do this.  

A POSSIBLE exception might be steam engine lead and trailing wheels that have inboard bearing trucks.

I have my doubts that you can twist diesel half-axles while the wheels are in place in the trucks.

 

 

 

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Posted by snjroy on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 12:23 PM

This tool perhaps?

https://www.fohrmann.com/en/wheel-spacer.html

But this cannot be used for wheels on trucks. The NWSL gear puller, a great tool by the way, is similar.

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Posted by Dave K on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 2:44 PM

Thanks

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