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Posted by NVSRR on Monday, November 21, 2016 10:26 AM

Anybody have a highline on thier layout similar to NYC highline, or Reading highline in  manayunk section of philadelphia?    Wondering how you actually built the viaduct.  By plans of the prototype or micro engineering highline kits.

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Posted by j. c. on Monday, November 21, 2016 11:37 AM

don't know it it will be there but check oiut the library of congress site under the prints and photographs catalog in the haer/habs section. 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, November 21, 2016 12:07 PM

LION built his on a bench, and him did not worry about the really fine details, because with big furry paws (and neuropathy) fine manipulations are out of the question. Him built it upside down on a work bench:

Then turn it over and place it on the layout.

Obviously, you can do better craftsman ship than I can. I used wodden, You can also use cardboard, to finish the shape of the I beams. Maybe you can paint better than I can toll.

The railing is made from a plastic "canvas" of the sort used for needle point, just cut off the sections that you do not need. Again, you can surely do a better job of filing of the nubs tha I can.

Looks better from a distance, of course.

 

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, November 21, 2016 12:45 PM

A company called Imagine That makes laser-cut wood models of elevated subway lines and stations.

http://itlascalemodels.com/elevated-rail.html

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, November 21, 2016 12:46 PM

Model Railroad Planning 2015 special edition had an article on the NYC high line.

I think either Model Railroad Planning or Great Model Railroads has done an article on someone modelling a similar elevated line, but IIRC it wasn't set in New York City.

Either Classic Toy Trains or O Gauge Railroading did an article a few years ago on someone modelling the NYC highline in 1:48 scale.

If you check the Walthers website / catalogue, one or more companies make products based on elevated 'big city' rail lines.

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Posted by Steven S on Monday, November 21, 2016 3:30 PM

The MicroEngineering kit appears to be based on the TRRA's old highline on the St. Louis riverfront, which isn't surprising given that M.E. is located near St. Louis. 

https://photos.smugmug.com/Terminal-Railroad-Association/Terminal-Railroad-Association/i-Dx3Rz8L/0/L/TRRA%2019%20-%20Sep%2013%201956%20-%20switcher%20%26%20coach%20on%20St.%20Louis%20riverfront-L.jpg

It was replaced by a more modern one with concrete columns and steel-girder spans.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, November 21, 2016 5:26 PM

Central Valley makes bridge girder components.

http://www.cvmw.com/bridges.htm

Evergreen plastics makes girders, but the material is kind of thin and you'd need a lot to make something structurally sound.

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, November 21, 2016 5:51 PM

Plastruct also makes all kinds of H-columns, I-beams, C-channels,angles, Trusses etc. in all scales. They are a lot stronger than Evergreen styrene counter parts.

This structure used for heavy bulk unloading/loading on the side of My Transload facility was all scratchbuilt using Plastruct ABS plastic, using their Plastruct Plastic Weld adhesive, which is extremely strong. The whole facility was built to be removeable. The bottom of the H-columns have Music wire rod pins that are CA'd to the side of the inside of the columns that fit into holes in the foundation.

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Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 6:47 AM

I have been doing searches throug google and bing. And can not get any of the chicago lines. And philadelphia lines to come up.   Only the nyc line after it was turned into a park is all i get.   Rather frustrating

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:32 AM

All NYCT lines can be found here:

http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/Main_Page

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:36 AM

Just about everything You need to know about Chicago's ''L'' AND Elevated Railway, starting in 1893 to present. Photo's,Maps, Girder construction in city streets, with clickable links to a whole wealth of info...Including Stanten Island Railway, NYC and more.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_%22L%22

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Posted by chutton01 on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:37 AM

NVSRR
I have been doing searches throug google and bing. And can not get any of the chicago lines. And philadelphia lines to come up.   Only the nyc line after it was turned into a park is all i get.   Rather frustrating


This is odd. I just googled Philadelphia High Line and got dozens of images of both Philadelphia High-lines (the active former PRR highline, and the soon to be a linear park Reading Viaduct - this is of course swamped with current images taken due to the park project, but you can hunt individual historic images).

Also, perhaps you need to distinguish between Heavy Raiil (Passenger or Frieght) high-lines vs elevated transit lines.

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Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 11:40 AM

chutton01

 

 
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I have been doing searches throug google and bing. And can not get any of the chicago lines. And philadelphia lines to come up.   Only the nyc line after . it was turned into a park is all i get.   Rather frustrating

 


This is odd. I just googled Philadelphia High Line and got dozens of images of both Philadelphia High-lines (the active former PRR highline, and the soon to be a linear park Reading Viaduct - this is of course swamped with current images taken due to the park project, but you can hunt individual historic images).

Also, perhaps you need to distinguish between Heavy Raiil (Passenger or Frieght) high-lines vs elevated transit lines.

 

 

those are the ones i get too.   None of which i   am.looking for.  Manayunk  has the septa r6 former  reading commuter cresson  street viaduct.  That does not  show up no matter what i type even when i look under the philadelphia germantown and norristown rr.   Yet in years past i have seen pics in other searches pop up.

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Posted by chutton01 on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 1:44 PM

NVSRR
Manayunk  has the septa r6 former  reading commuter cresson  street viaduct.  That does not  show up no matter what i type even when i look under the philadelphia germantown and norristown rr.   Yet in years past i have seen pics in other searches pop up.


Well, OK, in that case you've probably seen this archived Railway Age article on the Manayunk grade separation project, but perhaps it might be interesting to others reading this thread (sadly, while there are good maps, there is only one good image of the underside of the Cresson St. Viaduct and one meh image of the fill/viaduct transition; there are in the article a number of good images of the grade separation though)

Actually, since this viaduct still exists and is readily viewable via Google or Bing, exactly what sort of images do you want to view of it?

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Posted by Eric White on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:39 PM

I found some interesting images by looking around on street view in google maps.

Here's a part of Cresson Street running under the viaduct:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0259392,-75.2227486,3a,75y,257.23h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sH6ljLTtiOF4qwPPJBILQ0Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

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Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:07 PM

I need images that give me a good idea of its construction.  To build a reasonable copy.  Although adjusted to fit my space.  It is rather beefy compared to the NYC and Chicago elevated.    Plus the transitions, and bridges.  great for a model railroad type setting.    Actually  Eric found a starting solution.  I didnt know google earth could look up.  Beautiful detail visible.   Now if I could figure out how to do capture images on there , I could get most of what I wanted.  thank you Eric.  Just need topside views.  makes me wonder what other great rilroad structures that could be solutions to model railroad problems exist, but not photographed.

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Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:23 PM

I just went through google earth view and found it appears to have been encased in concrete during the rebuild. Although good for the posts and bracing on the underside, not good for sides and top.   It does have a good view of how the power lines are mounted too.  SO the hunt goes on.    I have the book "rails through Manaynk" but that does not have any valuation completed shots.  Just a hand full of under construction pics. 

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