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Decals using Epson ink jet printer and print shop

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Decals using Epson ink jet printer and print shop
Posted by banjobenne1 on Monday, November 7, 2016 2:24 PM

Hello, I am tryng to print decals using an Epson printer and print shop. I do hit the decal with Fixative spray, and let it dry overnight. It all looks good until I slide the decal off the paper. All the printing disappears.Sad

In print shop just what is meant by opaque and transparent? Thank you for any help you may offer. 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, November 7, 2016 2:37 PM

Are you using decal paper made for ink jet printers?  It won't work well if you're using laser printer paper.

What are you using to "fix" the decal?  I use Krylon clear spray

I use a Canon inkjet printer, but it should be the same principle.

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Posted by banjobenne1 on Monday, November 7, 2016 8:51 PM
Yes, and Yes, wasting much decal paper trying to get this right.
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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, November 7, 2016 9:33 PM

I use Testors Decal Bonder in a spray can and let it dry overnight, the Decal Bonder will shrink over rivets and seams with Micro SOL.
 
 
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Posted by G Paine on Monday, November 7, 2016 10:32 PM

A lot of inks are transparent, particularly if you are applying a light color ink over a darker surface. I have run into this with my current Epson printer and the one that died on my a couple of years ago. Sometimes printing on white decal paper helps.

What model Epson are you using, what color are you printing, and what is the color of the surface you are applying the decal to?

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 3:42 AM

Gidday, I use an older Epson CX5500 Ink Jet Printer and both Testors clear and white decal paper and Testors 9200 decal bonder. The only instructions I ignore are the recommended printing preference, Plain Paper- Normal Quality-Portrait Mode, in that I use Glossy Paper –Best Photo- Portrait mode. The result is far better in my opinion.
 
I’m not adventurous in that I’ve only ever printed black letters on the clear and my freelanced red and yellow logo on the white, (I’ve also printed the background black or brown and ended up with white letters using the white decal paper), so like George, I’m wondering if you’re trying to print “light” colours.
 
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Posted by cedarwoodron on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 6:35 AM

I purchase Bel clear decal sheets on EBay. Their instructions- for ink jet printers- are to set the paper type to photo paper and the print quality to high (or finest), instead of normal. This results in a slower printing process with greater sharpness. They then say to clear coat the printed decal paper with krylon gloss spray, generally making 3 passes at a 9-12 inch spray distance . I wait 12 hrs after printing to clear coat, then 24hrs after clear coating to soak and apply the resulting decals on model surfaces which have been gloss painted. I allow another 24 hrs to dry the decals and then use Testor Dull Kite over the decal and paint surface.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 8:01 AM

Are you trying to print white?  Printers don't actually print white.  They assume that the paper is white.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 8:30 AM

banjobenne1

Hello, I am tryng to print decals using an Epson printer and print shop. I do hit the decal with Fixative spray, and let it dry overnight. It all looks good until I slide the decal off the paper. All the printing disappears.Sad

In print shop just what is meant by opaque and transparent? Thank you for any help you may offer. 

 

After reading your original post a couple more times brought back a memory from many years ago.  I was using an HP inkjet printer and had the same problem you describe, it was the decal paper.  The decals looked very good but colors would bleed or just dissolve when I put them in water.
 
The fix was a new batch of inkjet decal paper.  I don’t remember what kind of decal paper I was using but the new paper was the fix.
 
I also use Bell Decal Paper off eBay and haven’t had a problem in years.  The decals can be too flimsily for me to apply with my shaky hands without two coats of Testors Decal Bonder.  I spray the decals twice about an hour apart then let them set overnight.
 
 
 
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Posted by hornblower on Thursday, November 10, 2016 6:32 PM

I have produced lots of great decals using Evan Designs Decal Paper in an Epson Printer.  Several really great features of this decal paper are, 1) no need for a fixative overspray, 2) you can create clear or white background decals from the same sheet of decal paper, and 3) full 8 1/2" by 11" sheets.  

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