IT'S JUST A CAR! A car that can't be offensive or offended by it. Just because history is surrounded by one president doesn't make it bad vehicle.
History is what you make it bad or good, and sometimes history will repeat itself. and we're here to help when happens.
Amtrak America, 1971-Present.
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
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Gary DuPrey
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Burlington Northern #24I'm offended that Rich doesn't agree. :P
Rich
Alton Junction
Hi, and now its time for my ten cents.............
I saw the ad in MR and the car brought back some sad memories (I'm 71). I would never buy that model for just that reason. Obviously (to me anyway) that 4 dr Lincoln ragtop was presented with the flags to associate it with that time. If it had just been pictured w/o flags and verbiage, it would have just been another car model.
ENJOY !
Mobilman44
Living in southeast Texas, formerly modeling the "postwar" Santa Fe and Illinois Central
I had a reply, but halfway through the typing...., I offended myself. So, I decided to remove my post and ban myself from any further comments. This of course offended me so I was allowed to post this. However, this offended me again so now I....
Todd
Central Illinoyz
In order to keep my position as Master and Supreme Ruler of the House, I don't argue with my wife.
I'm a small town boy. A product of two people from even smaller towns. I don’t talk on topic….. I just talk.
TMarsh I had a reply, but halfway through the typing...., I offended myself. So, I decided to remove my post and ban myself from any further comments. This of course offended me so I was allowed to post this. However, this offended me again so now I....
iwander I found the article selling a model of the Kennedy's Assassination car very offensive. What's next? World Trade Center falling down? Southern Church on fire? I think Model Railroader can no longer claim that it is the magazine that model railroaders trust
I found the article selling a model of the Kennedy's Assassination car very offensive.
What's next? World Trade Center falling down? Southern Church on fire?
I think Model Railroader can no longer claim that it is the magazine that model railroaders trust
Hey, it's not like it's the General Lee...
Many years ago I worked in a Lincoln-Mercury dealership. While there I got to work on JFK's personal Lincoln before it went to auction. It was strange working on it.
Would I want a railroad car with a painting on the side of that car? No. It's just a painting.
Same with the one in the add. It's just a painting.
South Penn
The only thing I find offensive is that it's a Ford product - owned one, will never own another!
Should we all castigate Revell for selling models of USS Arizona? I think not.
For that matter, I really like the Lockheed P-38. That didn't change when I learned that a P-38 mission was laid on for the specific purpose of killing Admiral Yamamoto.
People get killed ahead of schedule. Some are important. Inanimate objects are associated with those deaths - but are in no way responsible unless they are bullets, bombs or torpedoes. And even then, some human had to pull the trigger, raise the lever or thumb the button...
(During WWII an opportunity to assassinate Adolf the Terrible was noticed. It was decided that he was of more use to the Allied cause alive. Why? Look at some of his absolutely insane edicts that bled the German army dry.)
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with no Lincoln ragtops)
richhotrain Burlington Northern #24 I'm offended that Rich doesn't agree. :P I'm not offended that you're offended, but I am offended that Larry's offensive post so offended me because it ran the risk of offending you to the extent that it might have offended me. Rich
Burlington Northern #24 I'm offended that Rich doesn't agree. :P
I'm not offended that you're offended, but I am offended that Larry's offensive post so offended me because it ran the risk of offending you to the extent that it might have offended me.
Run that by me one more time..
Larry
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A few random thoughts:
Most everything that passes as "politically correct" offends me.
Remembering the places, things and events of history does not offend me, flags included - and I have a "racially diverse" family.
I say we need to remember the assassinations, unprovoked attacks and terrible battles - we might be a little less inclined to allow them to repeat themselves.
I was once a Chevy guy, but in the last 20 years it has all been FORD, except for one Nissan - that was the biggest piece of junk I ever owned. But, I will confess a bias, I have no use for little cars.
I'm thinking I need one of those cars even though it breaks my rule of not buying stuff outside my era - I model 1954.
Remember Pearl Harbor, Gettysburg, Midway, Normandy, Bunker Hill...........
Remember all those who pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
And just get over being offended by every little thing you don't agree with.
Sheldon
OK, I will go back to sleep now because this forum just gets worse every time I check on it.
In Trains magazine they are raving about the Lincoln funeral train that currently touring this summer. At each display location people are lining up to see it. CBS did a piece for their news shows about it. By the theory on the Lincoln this should be the most offensive display of the year. I'm sorry it's a piece of our history.
--Steven Otte, Model Railroader senior associate editorsotte@kalmbach.com
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
gmpullman Walthers offers various Amtrak passenger cars. On very rare and unfortunate circumstances, people have lost their lives in these very same cars through no fault of their own. Should they be pulled off the market because seeing a model of one may offend someone who might have been affected by such a tragedy?
Walthers offers various Amtrak passenger cars. On very rare and unfortunate circumstances, people have lost their lives in these very same cars through no fault of their own. Should they be pulled off the market because seeing a model of one may offend someone who might have been affected by such a tragedy?
Actually, the Amtrak Northeast Regional derailment in Philadelphia on May 12 involved ACS-64 locomotive #601, which was totaled in the accident. The day before the accident, Kato USA announced it would be releasing the ACS-64 in N scale, and the road number was going to be #601. Following the accident, Kato announced that the ACS-64 model they would be releasing would have the road number #621 instead.
That's interesting.
I have the Atlas AEM-7 #911 that was scrapped after an equipment fire. Not exactly the same circumstances but it is interesting to know the history of the particular locomotives in your roster.
I have the GG1 4876 as well!
Thanks, Ed
There are a number of model kits out there for the Titanic, plus all the TV documentaries, movies, etc. It's a part of history that people are interested in. How many models have been offered of the I.C. "Casey Jones" 4-6-0 382 (even though that wasn't Casey's regular engine)?? Same idea.
Yes, a model of the presidential Lincoln showing JFK having been shot would be weird, but just a model of the car itself, which was used by other presidents? I don't see a problem.
Why am I suddenly thinking of the, "Hot Caboose," ad in MR, and the photo of two marker lamps that resembled, "Makin' bacon?"
Both of those caused a couple of forum Puritans to get their drawers in a knot - and the rest of us...
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)