I am trying to put a waybill system in place. I have my Car Cards completed and starting the waybills and I have a question. If a box car of items comes in from a supplier for one company on my layout and the empty box car simply goes beck to the supplier do I need:
just 2 sections filled out, #1 is for a full car of supplies arriving and #2 is the empty car going back?
or 4 sections as follows:
- A full incoming train will go to staging yard
- Cars will be broken down and moved to location on waybill
- Empty car then goes to staging yard out
- A full outgoing train returns to suppling or originating company
Thanks for you help !!
Brian
brianmarie just 2 sections filled out, #1 is for a full car of supplies arriving and #2 is the empty car going back?
Yes, this could be all you need depending on how your layout is arranged. Then you can use the other two cycles (if you like) for another movement between a different off-layout source and on-layout destination to give more variety in movements.
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Brian:
If you want a car to move from offline staging to an industry and then when empty back to staging, and then repeat, the waybill card only needs two sides.
Example on my layout: Stock car comess from staging empty to classification yard on morning shuttle. Shuttle takes waiting cars to staging.
The just arrived cut of cars is immediately sorted into local freights for delivery.
During the same session the local freight spots the empty stock car at a teamtrack with a stock pen.
Between sessions the waybill card is turned, and the next session the stock car is moved to the classification yard where is is sorted into the outgoing to staging track.
The outgoing cars spend overnight in the yard, and a shuttled out the n ext morning.
One car, one two sided waybill, three operating sessions. Returns someday.
I have three sided waybills, to move empties from the yard, to a shipper, then to an offline customer, them back from staging to an online customer, and then the waybill is removed and the car goes to the classification yard.
This gives cars various destinations, to keep operators thinking.
Hope this helps.
Dave
I use a single sided waybill and each car has 10 waybills for each industry and each open car like gons,flats,bulkheads has 10 different removable loads.
Each car card has "When Empty return to (say) BN via reverse route" which means on my ISLs I simply return all empties to NS interchange from Slate Creek Industrial park (Toledo) or CSX interchange from Lakeview Industrial park at Lorain..
I don't switch each industry every operation sesson nor do I use any given number of cars..Some "days" I may have one or two cars other day as many as five.Some days we only need to pick up the empties and take them to the interchange.Some days there is no work so the crew washes the engine,does light engine or track repairs or cut weeds and grass around the home office.
Larry
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AS with Larry's example, my method relies in part on the "When Empty Return to:_________" section that is on the car card itself. My "Return to" locations go multiple places though. It could be elsewhere on the layout or completely off the layout. This is generally done only with single cars that are assigned to specific traffic or to pools of cars. Generally the "Return to" location is simply given as the station name of where the relevantg industry is located. Then you just have to know what commodities go in those cars to figure out the rest.
Cars that are "free runners" or not assigned to any pool do not have the "Return to" form filled in. These are generally treated by the rules providing for the return of cars in the direction of the home road, east or west in my case. The waybill will then direct the load and the MT in some cases. In others, only the loaded trip is indicated.
Really, it's hard to do this the wrong way, so long as traffic flows and car supply works for how your layout is set-up. Because you can't forget car supply, which is the goal of the "Return to" aspect of things -- whether on the car card or as a movement on the waybill-- provides MTs so those cars cycle back out again.
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
mlehmanwhether on the car card or as a movement on the waybill-- provides MTs so those cars cycle back out again.
Here's the twist I use..Slate Creek has no outbound loads while Lakeview has so,empties is furnished by CSX,Railbox TTX(60' flats) or Railgon..
I tend to use the 2 cycle waybills, one loaded move and one empty move. I also have "agent" waybills that read "Route to Agent P&R Coatesville, PA for local loading" That moves the empty cars to Coatesville to be held for future loading. Then I will give the yardmaster the shift's "car orders" for the steel mill. That is the waybill turned to the empty side. The yardmaster selects the empty gons/flats to be spotted in the mill, removes the agent waybill and replaces it with the empty move waybill, then spots the empties. The next shift/session, the empty bills are turned and the loads are pulled.
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
Even though a car may be used mainly for two "on layout destinations" I still use a 4 sided waybill and route that car to other places for variety. Those other places can include off layout staging and the car repair shop or rip track.
Jarrell
Jarrell,To add variety to my operation I have 60 cars that I cycle through operations on my ISL.
Why is that?
I'm trying to avoid that "Gee whiz,there's that dented CSX gon again going to Raithwalls Steel Pipes." syndrome.