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painting and weathering a loco

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painting and weathering a loco
Posted by tommy2tap on Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:47 PM

when painting a loco we use flat paint. to apply decals we apply gloss clear. does this need to be done to the entire model or just where the decals are going?

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:15 PM

Tommy,

Generally there are several routes you can take with this.

But we could be much more helpful if you provided some details (and photos if possible).

What is your project?  Steamer? Diesel? Electric?  HO or N scale?  What road name and paint scheme?


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when painting a loco we use flat paint. to apply decals we apply gloss clear. does this need to be done to the entire model or just where the decals are going?

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Posted by locoi1sa on Sunday, December 30, 2012 3:07 PM

I never could figure out why someone would paint a loco flat then gloss then decal and then flat. I paint mine gloss then decal then flat. If you start with gloss paint then you can skip a step that will add depth and potential runs and orange peel.  You can even weather after decals and seal it all with a final flat clear or even a satin clear.

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Posted by Mark R. on Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:56 PM

locoi1sa

I never could figure out why someone would paint a loco flat then gloss then decal and then flat. I paint mine gloss then decal then flat. If you start with gloss paint then you can skip a step that will add depth and potential runs and orange peel.  You can even weather after decals and seal it all with a final flat clear or even a satin clear.

        Pete

Agreed. Trying to get flat paint glossy requires a pretty heavy coating of gloss. Even then, since flat paint isn't smooth (it's the roughness that attributes to the flat finish), spraying gloss over flat will leave you with a less than smooth gloss finish.

If you insist on working that way, patch spraying the gloss for decals is not a good idea either. Once you spray gloss over the flat, you now not only have two different finishes, you also have two different furface textures. No amound of additional finish over the entire model will blend them back together 100 %.

If you are just decalling the sides, you can just gloss coat the entire side. Your eye won't pick up the subtle difference in the finish between the roof and the sides.

Save yourself a lot of extra work (and paint build-up) by painting the model in a gloss to start with. If all you have is flat paint, you can improve it by adding some gloss finish to the mix. It might give you just enough sheen so as to avoid extra clear coating.

 

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Posted by tommy2tap on Monday, December 31, 2012 6:41 AM
The project is a fictional road. diesels. CNW yellow on long Hood and Southern sylvan green on short hood and walkways.
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Posted by basementdweller on Monday, December 31, 2012 6:54 AM

Like others here I use a paint that has some shine to it. If the paint I am using is flat then I mix it with Future Floor wax so it goes on with some shine. Then I decal and then weather the entire loco last.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by tommy2tap on Monday, December 31, 2012 11:20 AM
I love the floor Polish idea. Everyone says spray gloss paint to start with but I've never seen poly scale railroad colors in gloss. Last time I tried mixing gloss coat with flat paint it flashed really badly. But that could have been humidity.
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Posted by basementdweller on Monday, December 31, 2012 8:10 PM

Look for it at WalMart, its called Pledge with FUTURE shine. Its a clear floor finishing product. I mix it about 50/50 and it acts as a thinner also. I only use it with water based paints. Great stuff.

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