Brunswick Green (or Brunswick Black?)

[egmurphy]

Okay, I'm new to painting and just recently bought some of my first bottles of Polly Scale. I needed a real dark green and got PRR Brunswick Green. I tried out a test swatch today to see how dark it was...............[:0]

I mean I knew this would be dark, but does this stuff really have any green in it at all? I took it outside in the sunlight and it still looks black to me. I painted a dab of Grimy Black next to it. The Brunswick Green is darker and blacker.

Is it just my eyes (a distinct possibility, I guess [8D]) or did I just buy a bottle of a different shade of black that I can put with my Grimy Black and my Power Black? [%-)]

I was originally looking for something probably about between a dark olive green and a black. Maybe what I'll do is look for a bottle of olive green (maybe something like a Pullman green) and combine it with some of the Brunswick Green!! [swg]

Regards

Ed

[Mark300]

I vividly remember as a child in 1955, a Pennsy Hippo (a 2-10-0) struggling up the Schuykill Division west of Norristown PA with a slow freight. I remember that engine's Brunswick Green being something like light-yet-dull olive-drab with some brown and gray soot. It belched an incredible amount of smoke and steam. My grandfather (who accompanied me) described that color as 'unique, but never quite the same any time you see it.'

Black however, it wasn't.

If you are able, check out the videos on the Baltimore Society of Model Engineers;
http://www.modelengineers.com/

the colors of their engines are close to what I recall.

HTH

Mark

[twhite]

To my recollection, Brunswick Green was an extremely dark color that looked black at first glance. You say you bought Polly Scale? Try Floquil and see if you notice any difference. I understand that Floquil seems to be extremely close to prototype color in their paint shades (unless I've been misinformed). What you might want to do the next time you're in your LHS is see if they have Broadway Limited's new Pennsy steamers like the M1-a or the J-1. I understand from all the reviews that BLI's Brunswick Green is spot on. That might give you an idea of the shade you want.

[egmurphy]

Thanks, guys.

The next time I'll be my LHS will be this fall when we make a trip back north of the border. But I'm not actually trying to match anything in particular, nor to be prototypical. I was just looking for a very dark green color and thought Brunswick would do the trick. I picked the Polly Scale because I like the water based paint.

But I appreciate the suggestions and the link.

Regards

Ed

[Big_Boy_4005]

Polly Scale is actually made by Floquil, it's just their water based line. There shouldn't be a whole lot of difference between the shades in either line.

Brunswick green is so dark, that back in the 50's, Lionel made some GG-1's using black paint. Later versions were actually painted green.

If you want to get fancy, you could mix your own shade since you aren't trying to match anything. Start with Pullman green and add black, or you could use that bottle of Brunswick you have.

[BRAKIE]

Acually Grimy Black with 2 drops of Brunswick green would be closer to the PRR true color..The reason I know this is because I worked on the PRR.

[tomwatkins]

Pullman Green mixed with engine black would be a good starting point to get a very dark olive green. I'd suggest adding the black a little at a time and testing it before adding more. I think the grimy black might gray the color out, which is why I'm suggesting engine black rather than grimy black. Brunswick green is very, very close to black. It has a just a slight green tint to it under very strong light. I've heard it refered to as "The next best thing to black".

Hope this helps,
Tom Watkins

[egmurphy]

I appreciate the input. Looks like we're coming back around to what I suggested at the end of the original post, which was to combine Pullman Green with some of the Brunswick Black, I mean Green. I think that'll work.

Regards

Ed