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Modeling Water
Posted by JohnReid on Friday, May 25, 2012 8:38 AM

Once Upon a time.........

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 25, 2012 9:30 AM

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Posted by JohnReid on Friday, May 25, 2012 10:57 AM

Hi guys ! I haven't been posting much recently as I am trying to finish up my fourth and final diorama commitment that I made to the Canada Aviation and Space Museum to have it finished before October of this year.Thing are going so well that I should be finished earlier than I planned.
I am getting anxious to get back to the RR diorama for a much needed change then on to the Bleriot/Falcon sculpture after that.
Right now I want to post a few pictures of a neat way of taking pictures of water scenes involving any type of modeling .It could be used for any model that passes on,by,over or through a water environment.I will post a few pictures I took the other day as examples,and later I will explain how it was done.

Once Upon a time.........

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Posted by JohnReid on Saturday, May 26, 2012 8:21 AM

Once Upon a time.........

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:56 AM

I really like your ripples and waves.  What do you use for your "water," and how do you get the wave effects?

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by JohnReid on Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:26 AM

Once Upon a time.........

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Posted by ChadLRyan on Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:48 AM

Now that is simply awesome!
How many drinks did that happy accident take, is my queston?
Actually, I believe that good 'home centers' can get textured glass in various sizes.

John, thanks for the excellent tip, & creative photos of great modelling!

Now, Where in the '#ell is my Shopping Cart?    Anyone seen My Shopping Cart?!?

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:34 AM

JohnReid

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/JohnReid/Diorama%20%205%20%20The%20Homecoming/The%20Homecoming%20page%203/TheHomecoming119.jpg

Your first photo looks very convincing, John.  You probably remember, like me, that using textured glass to represent water was popular back in the '50s, and probably earlier, too.


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Posted by cuyama on Sunday, May 27, 2012 3:08 PM

doctorwayne
Your first photo looks very convincing, John.  

I couldn't have been the only one who noticed the hole in the glass tabletop for the umbrella in the first photo. Not so convincing to me. Passing this off as modeling is puzzling to me.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, May 27, 2012 3:32 PM

cuyama

 

 doctorwayne:
Your first photo looks very convincing, John.  

 

I couldn't have been the only one who noticed the hole in the glass tabletop for the umbrella in the first photo. Not so convincing to me. Passing this off as modeling is puzzling to me.

I dunno:  I thought it was a duck. Laugh

Actually I was referring mainly to the colour, although the texture is good, too.  I'm not a golfer, which may explain why I missed the hole. Smile, Wink & Grin


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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, May 28, 2012 4:35 AM

doctorwayne

 I'm not a golfer, which may explain why I missed the hole. Smile, Wink & Grin


Wayne

Wayne, I am a golfer, and I miss the hole quite often.  It is a phenomenon known as "high handicap".

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, May 28, 2012 4:39 AM

cuyama

 doctorwayne:
Your first photo looks very convincing, John.  

I couldn't have been the only one who noticed the hole in the glass tabletop for the umbrella in the first photo. Not so convincing to me. Passing this off as modeling is puzzling to me.

LOL

With John's prolonged absence from these forums, people tend to forget that he models "static layouts".  I think this is a case of "whatever works".

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Posted by JohnReid on Monday, May 28, 2012 8:33 AM

Thanks guys,glad you like it !

Once Upon a time.........

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Posted by JohnReid on Monday, May 28, 2012 8:38 AM

I left a portion of the hole visible as a  hidden clue.Great that you picked up on it .Congrats !

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Posted by JohnReid on Monday, May 28, 2012 8:55 AM

Thanks Chad! Glad to be back posting regularly again after a long absence due to a museum commitment that I had to finish. Cheers! John.

Once Upon a time.........

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, May 28, 2012 12:31 PM

Despite a couple of negative comments (one was seemingly removed Whistling), John's illustration using glass to represent water is a valid option for those wishing to model some types of water scenes.  The more often shown method of pouring "water" is neither the only nor the best option in some cases. Smile, Wink & Grin


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Posted by cuyama on Monday, May 28, 2012 12:50 PM

Modeling water with ripple glass is certainly a topic appropriate for this forum and this thread. Tips and techniques for doing so would be welcome.

Photos of a patio table are not, IMHO.

But I'll bow out with no further comments.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, May 28, 2012 12:52 PM

Welcome back John! I've had to go lurk on some fine modeling forums just to see what you've been up to.

As far as the table top water goes, one of the best MRR water scenes I've seen was made out of a 18" x 4' sheet of wavy plastic. It was a fluorescent light cover. It had been painted shades of green and gray. A bit of silicone provided relief for some small whitecaps. It was a perfect way to have a large body of water on a portable train show layout.

And to those who criticize, please stop. It adds nothing to the enjoyment of the hobby. Be it the use of plastic for water or foam for mountains. The times they are a changing. Deal with it.

Edit;  Many of us cheat for photography purposes. I only have a problem with that if the photographer doesn't fess up. I printed a prairie background on a 11 x 8 piece of paper once to show off a building I built. I also showed a photo of the piece of paper being propped up behind the building afterwards.

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Posted by cuyama on Monday, May 28, 2012 12:58 PM

BATMAN
And to those who criticize, please stop. It adds nothing to the enjoyment of the hobby. Be it the use of plastic for water or foam for mountains. The times they are a changing. Deal with it.

The use of ripple glass to represent water is a very old technique, one I've actually tried. What does that have to do with "changing times"?

Or for that matter, what do photos of a patio table have to do with model railroading?

If the Original Poster does not want critique, he should refrain from posting his (hundreds of)  photos. Otherwise, legitimate criticism is an occupational hazard of internet forums. As you put it, "Deal with it."

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, May 28, 2012 1:30 PM

cuyama

 

 

If the Original Poster does not want critique, he should refrain from posting his (hundreds of)  photos. Otherwise, legitimate criticism is an occupational hazard of internet forums. As you put it, "Deal with it."

Suggestions may be welcomed if it saves someone an unforeseen problem down the road. Criticism and advice should be given when asked for. If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all.(Thumper) I am not perfect by any means but I try.

Does it matter how many photo's he post? I enjoy looking at them. It is one of the benefits of the internet. No one is holding a gun to your head to look at them. Next time you see John's name on a post just scroll on by.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, May 28, 2012 2:09 PM

I'll grant John this much.  When I first saw the photo he posted, at quick glance, I did not see the hole in the table top.  It looked so real to me that I did not think it was a photo of a model.  I just assumed he photographed the real thing.

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