Actually it would be the CN prototype ---- heeheehee Can't get much simpler than this:
Well, it ain't one of these: http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/steam-01/1654_sp-steam-m04-gene_deimling.jpg , but it's a neat looking engine. Judging from some of the info I've been able to glean, the E-10 and the M-4's capabilites appear to be very similar.
Will pieces parts (e.g. drivers, cylinder saddles, etc. be available separately)?
Maybe it's just the pics, but the CN engine looks a bit smaller than the SP M-4. However, they did use the same sized drivers and the rigid wheelbase looks similar. The M-4 was good
Incidentally, have you any idea how close the CN engine is to a B&M B-15 Mogul? You might be able to cover several prototypes with a single base engine and different details.
Even if you stick strictly with the E-10, I think you've got a winner.
Andre
The B-15 is very close in size to the CN loco, with the same over-all wheelbase, although the driver wheelbase of the B&M loco is slightly longer. The extra length is located between the first and second drivers, with the space equal between all three driver sets. The CN loco has a similar spacing between the second and third drivers as on the B&M loco, with the lead drivers closer to the second set.
Some slide valves would be required for the B-15 , although I may modernise mine one of these days.
Wayne
I actually think that it is doable to at least place the drivers about equal and still have the thing look like an E10 the differences were small enough that you could get into a discussion as to which exactly you just saw there----I've seen some photos taken that had both E10's and B15's being used up here and there was little difference really obvious---
That photograph btw was taken from the former Palmerston yard in Palmerston ON.
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I've been away from the hobby for 25 + years and started back last Christmas when my wife presented me with a Broadway limited 4-4-4-4. Wow, but on my DC power pack, the low speed performance left me asking, how's come? Even more so when the 6 wheel Walter's heavy weight passenger cars refused to roll over 22 inch curves!
Well, in the last few months I've learned that all the wealth of kits, parts, reasonably price motive power and cars are gone! What was a reasonable hobby growing up in the 60's/70's doesn't exist. And knowing now a once great company Athearn charges several hundred dollars for a F-7 and don't care to support their products, I don't have a warm feeling for the hobby any more. Maybe its time to take up flying model airplanes. The last I look, balsa wood is still available.
There is always building your own locomotive from scratch. I am working on a 4-2-4 based on the C.P. Huntington in TT scale. The only commerical parts are the wheels, gears, and motor. The rest is sheet brass, wood, and plastic.
If you want a specific locomotive, or car for that matter, scratchbuilding is always an option.
So many scales, so many trains, so little time.....
seppburgh2 I've been away from the hobby for 25 + years and started back last Christmas when my wife presented me with a Broadway limited 4-4-4-4. Wow, but on my DC power pack, the low speed performance left me asking, how's come? Even more so when the 6 wheel Walter's heavy weight passenger cars refused to roll over 22 inch curves! Well, in the last few months I've learned that all the wealth of kits, parts, reasonably price motive power and cars are gone! What was a reasonable hobby growing up in the 60's/70's doesn't exist. And knowing now a once great company Athearn charges several hundred dollars for a F-7 and don't care to support their products, I don't have a warm feeling for the hobby any more. Maybe its time to take up flying model airplanes. The last I look, balsa wood is still available.
Since when are full length (80-85 ft) passenger cars supposed to roll around a 22" radius (especially since Walthers recommends a minimum of 24" http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-9341 )? Certainly, the old Walthers wood and metal heavyweights of yore wouldn't do so without some major compromises and without the fantastic detail available today.
As for Athearn F7's, you can get them for considerably less than several hundred dollars. http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=F7+A%2fB+RTR&CatID=THLD They just won't be Genesis models, but essentially the same engines available 40 years ago with some internal improvements, better truck sideframes and better paint jobs.
I don't know what you expected, but if you expected things to the same as 25-30 years ago, you had unrealistic expectations. 30 years ago, I could buy a new car for under $5,000. Try that today. IIRC, 30 years ago, I could fly from SFO to LAX for around $30 and that was without restrictions. Ain't gonna happen today even with non-refundable tickets (and especially not with all the crap add-on charges the airlines demand).
Things change. Even so, there's more available now than at any time in the hobby.
I got a better response than I imagined! I firmly believe that this will work...probably not in this current economy, however. I DO NOT MEAN DISRESPECT TO ANYONE IN MY NEXT COMMENTS:
This idea isn't meant for the "daisy picker" or people who like red,blue or green trains. It is geared towards the modeler who is looking for something more out of there hobby. It does not have to be so difficult that someone with average or even limited skills could enjoy.
This is just an idea for us to progress to our next 'cool' or 'awesome' thing in our hobby. I can remember when some folks said that our steam locomotives would not get better than Rivarossi in detail and running ability......look at us now. It all happened because we demanded more from producers. Remember when we thought that DCC was WAY too expensive and that it would go away as fast as it came? Wow!
Like the Good Book says: We have not cause we ask not. Ask, and ye shall receive.
Thanks for all the responses...positive and negative. Now, if you will excuse me, I have to get the Crescent out on the main behind a highly detailed, 30 year old,DCC equipped, Rivarossi made, Southern Railway heavy pacific. Did I mention that its powered by a Digitrax Super Chief set? : )