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"Baby Face" Baldwins (DR6-4-1500) SAL used them, but who else?

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"Baby Face" Baldwins (DR6-4-1500) SAL used them, but who else?
Posted by citylimits on Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:21 PM

Not to be confused with the Baldwin Centipede locomotive soon to be released by BLI. I was wondering if the smaller, "Baby Face" Baldwins (DR6-4-1500) were used by any other railroad operating in North America. An e-mail or two on the ACL-SAL-SCLmodeler Group indicates NYC used them - but did any other road?

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, April 26, 2010 2:08 AM

The biggest user was the Jersey Central.  There's some more info HERE, and here's a link to a planned HO scale model of a "Baby Face".

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Posted by BillyDee53 on Monday, April 26, 2010 4:25 AM

The Seaboard's units rode on 6 axle trucks while the CNJ.s units rode on 4 axle trucks.  The model designation stands for 6 axle- 4 motor- 1500 horsepower.  Don't know the hp of the CNJ units.  CNJ had A and B units; I think SAL only had As.

 Babyfaces were what Baldwin built before Raymond Loewy designed the sharknose carbody.

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Posted by dehusman on Monday, April 26, 2010 7:53 AM

Baldwin babyfaces were almost custom run units.  There were several railroads (NYC, CNJ, MP) that had them, but they were all slightly different designs.  The Anthracite RR Historical Society is sponsoring a run of resin shells for the CNJ version.

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Posted by RDG1519 on Monday, April 26, 2010 8:08 AM

CNJ was a big user and each one was a little different from the other. I am hopeful that the Anthracite RR Historical Society completes this project as these will be the only ones availalble in resin or plastic.

 In HO both Hallmark and OMI have done these in Brass with the usual difference in quality and price. The OMI came factory painted.

These units on the CNJ would only MU with themselves. Very late in their carreers only one "B" unit was left and would have been an orphan had the Reading Co not leased an AS16 to MU with it.

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Posted by citylimits on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:07 AM

Sorry to have to bump this post to the top of the page but I really want to thank you all for the very helpful and expanded information you have provided.

I was wanting to provide additional information to BLI in support of my request to them to consider producing the Baby Face on top of the Centipede they are releasing latter this year in Pennsylvania and Seaboard paint schemes.  I thought that if railroads other than the SAL & NYC used these locomotives then BLI may see a bigger potential market than if just two Railroads ran them.

With differences between all the DR6-4-1500 locomotives Baldwin built it may be even less of an attractive proposition for BLI than I had first imagined.

That you again for all of your help.

 

BruceSmile

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