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What is a geep?
Posted by cudaken on Monday, February 15, 2010 10:18 AM

 Is this a term that applies to one make of engine, or is it a term that is used to cover a variety of engines?

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Monday, February 15, 2010 10:20 AM

A "Geep" is what people call locos from the GP-series of EMD, i.e., GP9, GP18 and so on.

 

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Posted by Silver Pilot on Monday, February 15, 2010 10:27 AM

Ken,

A piece of advice to you and other newbies - Spend some of your time reading some background material on what your interested in.  Check out of parts of the train.com website.  There is a wealth of information available right here (and not in the forums or from its members) if you would just spend some time looking around.  Indices, glossary of terms etc.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Monday, February 15, 2010 10:47 AM

OY--just a simple question--was already dealt with. Smile

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Posted by andrechapelon on Monday, February 15, 2010 10:55 AM

Midnight Railroader

A "Geep" is what people call locos from the GP-series of EMD, i.e., GP9, GP18 and so on.

 

Which kind of begs the question why isn't an SD unit referred to as a "Sid"?

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Posted by Left Coast Rail on Monday, February 15, 2010 11:11 AM

 

Here is the definition from the website American Rails:

"Geep: The affectionate term describing EMD's popular GP (General Purpose) series, which initially was meant for the first generation units, the GP7, GP9, and GP18 but later went on to describe all of EMD's GP models."

 

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Monday, February 15, 2010 11:18 AM

andrechapelon

Midnight Railroader

A "Geep" is what people call locos from the GP-series of EMD, i.e., GP9, GP18 and so on.

 

Which kind of begs the question why isn't an SD unit referred to as a "Sid"?

Andre

My neice kept referring to an SD as a SeeDLaugh

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, February 15, 2010 11:23 AM

Now you make me wonder if Baldwin's AS-616 was called an "a##."  You guys have a bad influence on me.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Monday, February 15, 2010 11:27 AM

markpierce

Now you make me wonder if Baldwin's AS-616 was called an "a##."  You guys have a bad influence on me.

Mark

You know, Mark, I had the same question but deleted it from my response.

Great minds and all that.

Of course, now when I think of E units, I think of Adrian Monk screeching and climbing on a table in one of the episodes. "Eeeeeeeeee"!!!!!

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Posted by Packer on Monday, February 15, 2010 11:56 AM

markpierce

Now you make me wonder if Baldwin's AS-616 was called an "a##."  You guys have a bad influence on me.

Mark

 Yeah, I'm wonder about the F-units now...

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, February 15, 2010 5:20 PM

Ya "G.P." means General Purpose, "S.D." means Special Duty. FWIW I will refer to them as Geeps but not when used with the number...that is I sometimes hear someone refer to a GP-9 as a "Geep Nine". I prefer to say "G.P. Nine" in that context.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 15, 2010 5:53 PM

I think I read somewhere that there was a connection between all-purpose Army Jeeps and all-purpose Railroad Geeps, but I could be wrong.

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, February 15, 2010 5:53 PM

 Thanks for all the kind and edited answers. Far as engine I.D.'s I only know the ones that I own or would like to own.

 What caused me to ask was when I asked about passenger train acceleration rates and it was stated that Geep's would accelerate faster than E units.

      Thanks again, Cuda Ken

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Posted by dti406 on Monday, February 15, 2010 6:42 PM

Of course Geeps and F's would accelerate faster than an E Unit, The Geeps and F's have 40" diameter Wheels versus the 36" Diameter Wheels of the E Unit.  So for every revolution of the axle the Geeps and F's would go 4" further.  They also had better tractive effort as they did not have an idler axle on each truck. Which is why F's were used in the mountains by the GN,  NP, B&O and others.

 

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Posted by steemtrayn on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:20 AM

Silver Pilot

Ken,

A piece of advice to you and other newbies - Spend some of your time reading some background material on what your interested in.  Check out of parts of the train.com website.  There is a wealth of information available right here (and not in the forums or from its members) if you would just spend some time looking around.  Indices, glossary of terms etc.

It also helps to know the difference between "your" and "you're".

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Posted by jwhitten on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:42 AM

andrechapelon

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A "Geep" is what people call locos from the GP-series of EMD, i.e., GP9, GP18 and so on.

 

Which kind of begs the question why isn't an SD unit referred to as a "Sid"?

Andre

 

 

Well, I would have wondered why not "Sed", but then I have a heavy UNIX background... Whistling

 

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Posted by lvanhen on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:07 AM

I always thought a geep was one of those things I drove in the ArmyConfused

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:32 AM

lvanhen

I always thought a geep was one of those things I drove in the ArmyConfused

Spelling is a little off---"Jeep" as opposed to locomotive, "Geep"Big Smile

Got a sparrow out back--sounds like he has a lisp--"Geep Geep Geep"---Smile,Wink, & Grin

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Posted by 0-6-0 on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:19 AM

Hello    Popeye's dog Eugene.

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:09 PM

Not sure..... but it may be some kind of diseasally thingy from some time in the future.  Of course I seem to be stuck in the year 1925 on the Seneca Lake, Ontario, & Western RR........Whistling

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Posted by AztecEagle on Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:30 PM

Geep is the term for General Purpose Locomotives made by GM's EMD Division starting with the GP7 in 1949 and ending with the GP60 in the 90's.

The models of EMD's GP series are:GP7;GP9;GP18;GP20;GP28;GP30;GP35;GP38GP39;;GP40;GP50 and GP60.

In 1972,EMD put a slightly more powerful motor in the GP38;39 and 40 models and gave them the Dash 2 designation-GP38-2;GP39-2;GP40-2.

Hope that helped.

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Posted by AztecEagle on Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:31 PM

Which was replaced by the Humvee in the 80's.

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Posted by jwhitten on Friday, February 19, 2010 7:19 AM

 >> What is a geep?

 

Its a four-wheel drive all T-rrr-RAIN vehicle... Big Smile

 

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, February 19, 2010 7:52 AM

TrainManTy

I think I read somewhere that there was a connection between all-purpose Army Jeeps and all-purpose Railroad Geeps, but I could be wrong.

Since the GP-7 demonstrators first came out in 1949, only 4 years after the end of WW2, it's quite likely that railroaders and others started calling GP-series engines "Geeps" because of WW2's famous Willys-Knight "Jeep" vehicle. "G-P" easily becomes "Geep", and since the GP series were meant to be as you say "all purpose" road switchers, the connection would be an easy one to make. But AFAIK it was just a slang usage, I don't know that GM / EMD ever used the term "Geep" in their literature about the engines.

Plus keep in mind that the jeep vehicle was I believe originally called a "General Purpose" or GP vehicle in US Army literature, and calling these autos "Jeeps" proabably came partly from that and partly from the Popeye cartoon character "Eugene the Jeep" who was introduced in 1936. In the cartoons, Jeeps were four-legged animals who could climb over anything, including up the sides of tall buildings or mountains with ease.

http://hobojeepers.tripod.com/eugene.htm

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Posted by RetGM on Friday, February 19, 2010 8:58 PM

Rick,  We need to review your math/geometry:  In one revolution of a wheel (circle), it will travel the distance around its CIRCUMFERENCE, not its Diameter.  Circumference = PI x Diameter, or for the 36" wheel,  (3.14 x 36) , about 113".  For the 40" wheel, 3.14 x 40 is about 126".  So the 40" wheel travels about 13" more per revolution, or about 9% farther... (I taught a lot of 8th grade math before bercoming a railroader/MRR.)  John 

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Posted by Paulus Jas on Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:03 AM

Hi

I think it was the other way around. General motors used the term GP(geep) already before the war and when the Willy's factory brought out there GP the word was already owned by their competitors. So Geep became Jeep.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:01 PM

jwhitten
Its a four-wheel drive all T-rrr-RAIN vehicle... Big Smile

That's worth a couple of rolled up newspapers-----SWAT SWAT!!LaughMischief

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Posted by Tjsingle on Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:27 PM
A geep is something BLI, and some manufactors don't like to make alot of! [(D-]
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Posted by SteamFreak on Saturday, February 20, 2010 10:27 PM

blownout cylinder

jwhitten
Its a four-wheel drive all T-rrr-RAIN vehicle... Big Smile

That's worth a couple of rolled up newspapers-----SWAT SWAT!!LaughMischief

Rolled up newspapers and banishment from the forum. Truly groan-worthy!

 

 

...wish I'd thought of it.  Smile,Wink, & Grin

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