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Bragdon Powders
Posted by tpatrick on Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:59 PM

It just struck me that maybe Bragdon powders could be applied by airbrush. Or maybe not. Has anyone ever tried that? If so, how did it work? I can imagine a nice even spray to give an overall dusty effect. I can also imagine a fatally clogged airbrush. What do you say?

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Posted by twhite on Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:09 PM

I'd be very wary about trying to apply the powders through an airbrush.  One of the main components in the powders makes them self-adhesive, so I would think that the airbrush would get hopelessly and permanently clogged in a very short time. 

If I were you, I'd use either a Q-tip or a stiff artists brush to apply the powders and forget about the airbrush. 

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Posted by Driline on Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:13 PM

tpatrick

It just struck me that maybe Bragdon powders could be applied by airbrush. Or maybe not. Has anyone ever tried that? If so, how did it work? I can imagine a nice even spray to give an overall dusty effect. I can also imagine a fatally clogged airbrush. What do you say?

 

Let us know how it all works out for you.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:15 PM

twhite

I'd be very wary about trying to apply the powders through an airbrush.  One of the main components in the powders makes them self-adhesive, so I would think that the airbrush would get hopelessly and permanently clogged in a very short time. 

If I were you, I'd use either a Q-tip or a stiff artists brush to apply the powders and forget about the airbrush. 

Tom

 

I'm with Tom. I've had great success using brushes to apply the powders.

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:02 PM

 As novel of an idea it  is there is something telling me putting powder in an air brush isn't really a good idea. BUT! and there's always a but, what if you put it in something like an air eraser that is made for spraying abrasive powders? Ah he's thinking now folks..........lol I am sure it probably could be done but you could more then likely get the same effect by putting some powder in the crease of a folded piece of paper and just gently blowing it on. I've seen guys do that with ground cover on vertical surfaces. Never quite works for me but it looks neat to try.

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Posted by spidge on Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:17 PM

twhite

One of the main components in the powders makes them self-adhesive, ....

Tom, are you saying there is paint pigment or something like that in them. I have used Meg paint pigments as they lock on by simply adding some alcohol. Dust or place it where you want them and flow on some of the wet stuf.

 FYI, the military model magazines have some great examples of weathering with pigments, chalks, etc. You know all the things we try in this hobby.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Friday, October 30, 2009 11:50 AM

I have set through five or more of this guy's clinics at NMRA functions; a couple of these involved the use of these weathering powders. I don't ever remember him addressing their possible airbrush usage; he has always used a brush application and I would surmise that these are designed for that purpose.

I use ground up, oil-free chalks for my weathering; without professional equipment I don't think I would ever be able to grind my chalks fine enough for use through an airbrush.

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Posted by twhite on Friday, October 30, 2009 1:49 PM

spidge

twhite

One of the main components in the powders makes them self-adhesive, ....

Tom, are you saying there is paint pigment or something like that in them. I have used Meg paint pigments as they lock on by simply adding some alcohol. Dust or place it where you want them and flow on some of the wet stuf.

 FYI, the military model magazines have some great examples of weathering with pigments, chalks, etc. You know all the things we try in this hobby.

John: 

I'm not sure what the component is, but I know that it works extremely well adhering to Dull-Cote prepared surfaces when it goes on dry.  I've used their weathering powders on quite a few of my brass locos, and when it goes on, it STAYS, LOL!   I even forgot to re-seal a loco of mine after weathering it, and after handling it to get it on the track, there was no residue on my fingers.  

Actually, they'll be showing at the MR show here in Roseville next month (their company is based just fifty miles up the road in Georgetown), and I always pick up a few things from them.  I'll inquire as to what the component is.  The one thing I do know, is that it WORKS!  Tongue  I really like them. 

But again, I'd be leery of trying to use it through an airbrush. 

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, November 1, 2009 10:09 AM

Bragdon chalks are the only ones that we have used.  I am not sure how using an airbrush for the chalks would make things any easier.  Because of the self adhesive,  I suspect that it might become permanently applied to parts of the room.

I would E-mail Joel Bragdon and ask his opinion.

jbragdon@bragdonent.com

Sue

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