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Tender Pickups from Kadee #5 springs

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Tender Pickups from Kadee #5 springs
Posted by hminky on Monday, August 3, 2009 7:20 AM

 My article on truck electrical pickup has moved to:

http://www.darksidemodeler.com/tender_wipers/

 

Thank you if you visit

Harold

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Posted by Robt. Livingston on Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24 AM

Clever use  of "found" materials that we all have handy. The material is phosphor bronze, which is mostly used for springy electrical contacts;  Kadee's adaptation of phosphor bronze to coupler springs is an unusual use, and converting those springs to electrical contacts is a great idea.

I've built supplemental pickup shoes that ride the railhead on tenderless locos, and put wipers on tender trucks; it really helps. I find that a little less friction is created when the contacts touch the axle, but on an insulated wheel, the back of the wheel is fine.     

   

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Posted by da_kraut on Monday, August 3, 2009 8:59 AM

 Hi,

Thank you for this wonderful idea.

Frank Smile

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Posted by nbrodar on Monday, August 3, 2009 9:35 AM

 Harold, thank you for the original idea, from way back. I use them on my caboose trucks to power the markers.

 

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Posted by richg1998 on Monday, August 3, 2009 11:10 AM

Hi Harold

Thanks for the link. It would be nice if all your projects could be modified to PDF and available somewhere. I have the HTML's of a few of your projects I have Zipped and sent to a few people here.

I use a Linux operating system and have not figured out how to convert to PDF's.

Removing lettering was one of them.

Your ideas are used by many people. You probably have received very few emails about this.

Rich

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Monday, August 3, 2009 5:05 PM

 I don't get it Harold--I thought you were now doing "vitrual" model railroading and had stopped working with 3d real models.

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Posted by hminky on Monday, August 3, 2009 5:20 PM

 I build railroad models in 3d and model railroads virtually. I never have stopped modeling just changed my priorities.

I discovered building a model railroad at my age is overwhelming and my main interest is really finding new and interesting ways of doing things. Small diorama-ish railroading is fun when I can think of new creative methods.The idea of endlessly doing the same things on a large model railroad has lost my interest. My main 3d interest is Sn3.5. It requires the most creativeness to develop models from HO and Sn3. Now I have the big layout syndrome off my back. Hallelujah!!!

Virtual railroading gives me the opportunity to truly "rubber". I can build my Interstate in the 1950's and the B&O in the 1870's. Operating a railroad in a realistic fashion alone is only possible in the virtual world. In the virtual world I can move a 112 coal train on the Clinchfield.

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Monday, August 3, 2009 5:42 PM

hminky
My main 3d interest is Sn3.5.

 

This week, anyway.Smile

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Posted by hminky on Monday, August 3, 2009 5:55 PM

Midnight Railroader

hminky
My main 3d interest is Sn3.5.

 

This week, anyway.Smile

 

 What does it matter what my interests are? I have supplied a whale of information to the model railroad world that no one else has because of my "weekly" interests. Which is really surprising.

It is terrible when no one has anything interesting on the internet. If my crap was some of the most informative the hobby is really sorry. Why there have been people on this forum who have even rehashed my material as their own and their "posse" have said how great it is.

As someone once said "What have you done for us lately, bunky?"

Harold

 Edit: I have been building Sn3.5 models since 1973.

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Posted by dieselsmoke on Monday, August 3, 2009 6:27 PM

 Hi

Great idea Harold!  Do you know roughly how long before the "fingers" wear out?

Jim

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Posted by hminky on Monday, August 3, 2009 6:31 PM

dieselsmoke

 Hi

Great idea Harold!  Do you know roughly how long before the "fingers" wear out?

Jim

 

It is the same phosphor bronze that is used in most locomotive pickups. It should last a reasonable length of time.

Harold 

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Posted by rs2mike on Monday, August 3, 2009 6:31 PM

Hey harold.

I used your method to power my athern snowplow and other projects great idea.  I would never have thought of that.  I tried your link to update my favorites page but it did not come up.  Did you remove it?

Mike

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Posted by hminky on Monday, August 3, 2009 6:36 PM

rs2mike

Hey harold.

I used your method to power my athern snowplow and other projects great idea.  I would never have thought of that.  I tried your link to update my favorites page but it did not come up.  Did you remove it?

Mike

 

If you mean the old Pacificcoastairlinerr.com site, I am between computers and webhosts. I will eventually re-load the old site.

 Harold

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Posted by rs2mike on Monday, August 3, 2009 6:58 PM

Was that the link you posted at the top of this thread?   If so then ok I will wait till you get update.

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Posted by hminky on Monday, August 3, 2009 7:15 PM

 The link in the thread is the new one.

Harold

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Posted by wedudler on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:57 AM

 Harold, Thank you for the HowTo, very good idea.

How do you isolate the two sides?

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 4:07 AM

hminky
What does it matter what my interests are? I have supplied a whale of information to the model railroad world that no one else has because of my "weekly" interests.

 

 Relax, no need to be so defensive. See that smiley face after my comment?

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 5:48 AM

 Thanks, I saved the page for future reference.

Enjoy

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Posted by Geared Steam on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 9:21 AM

Thank you Harold, I have always found your website top be very helpful.

"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."-Albert Einstein

http://gearedsteam.blogspot.com/

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Posted by DJO on Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:59 PM

real glad i saw this.  been wanting to put lites in my cabose cars for a long time but didnt know how to try it.  what a good idea and i got a big pile of kd springs.  can i use the same lites thats in athern engines?   

nbrodar

 Harold, thank you for the original idea, from way back. I use them on my caboose trucks to power the markers.

 

Nick

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:21 PM

 Hello All

Realize, only works like the photo for non metal trucks. Can be done with metal trucks but isolate one wiper somehow. I use #30 wire for connection to decoder.

When you see something like this, save the site to your PC as a HTML. File/Save As.

You will end up with two Icons. A HTML Icon and a Files Icon.

That way when the site goes away, you have the original data in your PC.

Click on the HTML file in your PC and the page opens up as if the site was still around. Just no click-able links.

I have saved a lot of Harold's stuff to my PC as his site goes away eventually.

I do this with many other sites owned by one person.

I sometimes store pages from this fourm like that.

Rich

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Posted by DJO on Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:07 PM

i counted 5 caboses i want to lite up.  been cheking my parts pile for lites.  got a couple of athearn engine bulbs but they look way to brite when lit up in dcc and get hot.   is there soemthing better? 

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Posted by stebbycentral on Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:06 PM


I tried this soultion on a couple of locomotives of my own, for auxilliary power pickups on the tenders. And it really, really works!

Except that now I have all of these #5 Kadee coupler parts that I have no idea what to do with...Confused

I have figured out what is wrong with my brain!  On the left side nothing works right, and on the right side there is nothing left!

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:11 PM

stebbycentral
pt that now I have all of these #5 Kadee coupler parts that I have no idea what to do with...Confused

 

That is why I bought the coupler springs separately.

Rich

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Posted by stebbycentral on Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:14 PM

richg1998

stebbycentral
pt that now I have all of these #5 Kadee coupler parts that I have no idea what to do with...Confused

 

That is why I bought the coupler springs separately.

Rich

Wasn't aware you were allowed to do that..

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:16 PM

DJO

i counted 5 caboses i want to lite up.  been cheking my parts pile for lites.  got a couple of athearn engine bulbs but they look way to brite when lit up in dcc and get hot.   is there soemthing better? 

 

If the lights get hot, you probably have 12 volt bulbs in the locos. Switch to 1.5 volt bulbs and use a resistor. Miniatronics has some nice 1.5 volt, 1.2mm diameter light bulbs. You can also use LED's and a resistor to limit the current to about 15ma. A 750 ohm resistor is a good size to use for LED's.

Rich


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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:18 PM

stebbycentral

richg1998

stebbycentral
pt that now I have all of these #5 Kadee coupler parts that I have no idea what to do with...Confused

 

That is why I bought the coupler springs separately.

Rich

Wasn't aware you were allowed to do that..

 

Check the Kadee site.

Rich

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:21 PM

 Caboose lighting. Below is what I use. It has a Super Capacitor.

I have complete instructions from the author but do not want to post them here. I can PM the instructions if anyone is curious.

Rich

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