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EBAY time left
Posted by DingySP on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:46 PM

Anyone else notice that ebay now counts down the time left in real time? (Or is this old news) No more refreshing the page every five seconds while snipping. Not sure if this is a good thing or bad.

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:33 PM

 Haven't noticed, but then I use sniping software anyway, so I don't have to sit there and keep refreshing the page.

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Posted by DingySP on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:45 PM

Cheater...

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Posted by Margaritaman on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:19 PM

It's been there for a few weeks now. 

A real sniper would use a third party sniping service.  Set it and forget it.  And you don't get emotionally involved and make a stupid mistake by paying too much.

LOL, did I open the can of worms enough...?

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Posted by DingySP on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:27 PM

Margaritaman

LOL, did I open the can of worms enough...?

Huh?

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Posted by TwinZephyr on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:30 PM
Given the way buyers and sellers are leaving the site, the more interesting question may be "how much time does eBay have left".  It is in a downward spiral and eBay keeps making changes intended to improve their business but which instead end up driving off even more of their users.
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Posted by Margaritaman on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:47 PM

TwinZephyr
Given the way buyers and sellers are leaving the site, the more interesting question may be "how much time does eBay have left".  It is in a downward spiral and eBay keeps making changes intended to improve their business but which instead end up driving off even more of their users.

Ebay's not going anywhere.  They'll keep pushing and when their business actually slows down (doubtful) they'll back off and things will pick up. 

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Posted by don7 on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:40 PM

As far as model railroad items there is a noticable reduction in items being sold.

That can easily be attributed to the fact that summer is here.

Great time to find good deals on e-bay as there certainly are less people bidding, however, there is also a lot less items being sold as most vendors who can wait till fall will do so and in turn likely receive more for their items.

Yes, I did notice the "real time" clock, nice enhancement to the site.

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Posted by reklein on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:24 PM

Maybe Craigs list is takin a bite. Maybe its the economy. BILL

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Posted by SteamFreak on Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:00 AM

 It doesn't count down for me, although I notice that the refresh button that would appear within the last 15 minutes is gone from the page.

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Posted by john2wilm on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:50 PM

 I think it is a nice feature, I did hate having to refreash the screen, but then again I usually just set a bid I am willing to pay for an item and forget it. If I get it I get it, and if I don't, I really did not need it anyway.  I do not think craigs list has hurt ebay in the model trains, I think that HO yardsale has taken some business away from ebay, but as long as ebay owns paypal, they are going to continue to make money.   John

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Posted by jwhitten on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:33 PM

DingySP

Anyone else notice that ebay now counts down the time left in real time? (Or is this old news) No more refreshing the page every five seconds while snipping. Not sure if this is a good thing or bad.

 

Be aware though that the countdown doesn't keep exact time sync. Over a 15 minute period it can drift by 5 seconds or more-- easily an issue if you're sniping down to the last second. A good thing to do if you have a fast connection is to refresh the page at around the 1 or 2 minute mark.

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:57 PM

 Seems to be ok at the very end, since they started doing that I've held my bid until there was less than 10 seconds left, and other than being outbid by a previously entered higher proxy bid, I've gotten my bid in before the end, and with only a second or two left.

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Posted by jwhitten on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:33 PM

rrinker

 Seems to be ok at the very end, since they started doing that I've held my bid until there was less than 10 seconds left, and other than being outbid by a previously entered higher proxy bid, I've gotten my bid in before the end, and with only a second or two left.

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Since the counter is implemented in Javascript, its succeceptible to I/O jitter. If you're doing a lot with the computer during the countdown you'll lose more time than if you're just sitting there watching. I tend to surf ebay and this MR site while I wait. So I accumulate errors more rapidly. However, as I mentioned, simply refreshing during the last minute or so is sufficient to sync it up. I too successfully snipe in the last several seconds.

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Posted by farrellaa on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:59 PM

What is a sniper service. I have been outbid at the last 2-3 seconds on several auctions and assumed they had some type of software allowing them to make these bids. I can't get my PC to react that fast.

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Posted by dgwinup on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:48 AM

A sniper service is an online website that allows you to place a bid with them but the bid won't be placed on the auction until the auction is nearly over.  Sniping prevents other bidders from knowing what your bid is or even that you are bidding!

There used to be several free sniping services, but they were limited in how close to auction's end they would place your bid (usually 6 to 10 seconds).  Other snipers using pay snipe services can place a bid with 1 second left on the auction.

I use e-Snipe ( http://www.esnipe.com/ ) and pay a fee.  They have a 14 day free trial offer.  There is a minimum fee of 25 cents and you'll pay about a penny per dollar bid above $25.  (A $50 auction win will cost you 50 cents.)  Check out the site.  It's fully explained.

Sniping keeps you out of bidding wars and emotional bidding.  Some bidders complain that sniping is unfair.  Unfair to whom?  The bidders who refuse to snipe and consistantly lose to snipers!

If you're very conservative in your bidding, sniping may not help you win more often, but it will help you keep your bidding from getting out of hand and you will win some auctions with it.

Hope that helps.

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Posted by jwhitten on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:49 AM

farrellaa

What is a sniper service. I have been outbid at the last 2-3 seconds on several auctions and assumed they had some type of software allowing them to make these bids. I can't get my PC to react that fast.

 

I do my own sniping, by hand. I'm pretty good at it. Dunno about anybody else.

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Posted by Margaritaman on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:27 AM

jwhitten
I do my own sniping, by hand. I'm pretty good at it. Dunno about anybody else.

 In the end there is no difference IF you want to track every auction and sit in front of the computer.  Personally I don't have that kind of free time.  I'd rather have an email pop up on my Crackberry and say "you won" or "you lost."

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Posted by jwhitten on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:51 AM

Margaritaman

jwhitten
I do my own sniping, by hand. I'm pretty good at it. Dunno about anybody else.

 In the end there is no difference IF you want to track every auction and sit in front of the computer.  Personally I don't have that kind of free time.  I'd rather have an email pop up on my Crackberry and say "you won" or "you lost."

 

I have a computer near me at pretty much all times. Its not that big a deal to watch an auction while I'm doing something else. Its all a matter of timing. Set an alarm to remind myself that something is coming up. Pay attention for a minute or so during the final minute or so. And then fire off a bid.

How hard is that?

Usually I win, sometimes I don't.

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:55 AM

jwhitten
I do my own sniping, by hand. I'm pretty good at it. Dunno about anybody else.

 

 Free sniping software works much better.

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Posted by jwhitten on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:35 AM

Midnight Railroader

jwhitten
I do my own sniping, by hand. I'm pretty good at it. Dunno about anybody else.

 

 Free sniping software works much better.

 

 

I have actually tried some "free sniping" software before and my experience is that its always something that gets in the way of its success- failure in screen-scraping, timing off, internet lags or delays, etc. Granted I may not have sampled the right software packages, but that's my experience.

As a human, I can adjust for any of those situations. The software cannot. But I'm not knocking the automation. If it works, that's great. I'd like to see one that did. Even if it was shareware-- as long as it could prove itself during the trial and didn't cost more than $20-40 bucks, I'd use it.

Back in the early 2000's I wrote my own sniper software which worked fine but was always a pain whenever ebay changed some aspect of their interface-- cause its all about 'screen scraping' (picking apart the html to get the data from the page). And I never knew ahead of time when they made a change. Only afterwards when the software 'failed' (couldn't locate the markers and the data) and I'd lost the auction.

So as a result of these various trials, I am generally distrustful of sniper software and instead just do it myself.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:13 AM

don7

As far as model railroad items there is a noticable reduction in items being sold.

That can easily be attributed to the fact that summer is here.

Great time to find good deals on e-bay as there certainly are less people bidding, however, there is also a lot less items being sold as most vendors who can wait till fall will do so and in turn likely receive more for their items.

Yes, I did notice the "real time" clock, nice enhancement to the site.

 

Don, I partially agree.

As far as model railroad items, it depends on what types of products modelers are hunting for. 

For example (just my observations) : I've noticed that there are now fewer Walthers HO DPM kits up for bid, yet there are still "Loads" of Cornerstone kits up for grabs, some at good prices. 

For HO locomotives, I've noticed that there are still plenty of the older Proto 2000 units (new in the box) available, yet there are far fewer BLI locomotives than a year ago.

Wink 

 

 

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