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Ed, you are right about the IHC being good inexpensive models, but I was told to avoid the 2-8-2. I have the Consol, it runs well, and even has a flywheel for smooth slow speed running. However, the detail is not up to what Bachmann and Athearn have on their nicest models. Which also means they have fewer small parts to break... <br />I would recommend the Athearn Mikado, if the expense and slight fragility are not too daunting. List is $150, but can be had for less if you are willing to go over the internet. List on the IHC is $100, but I would not pay that, you can get them for $60 online. (I got my Consol for $30! I am kitbashing it into a cheap 0-8-0 by removing the front truck and modifying/shortening the pilot.) Also, Rivarossi has Mikados, listing at $130, and these would be preferable to the IHC, but not up to the modern standards of the Athearn Genisis 2-8-2. The new Rivarossi does have a can motor, old ones on ebay will not, nor have the RP25 contour wheels. I would not recommend ebay except for rare items, prices don't seem to be any better than retail! So, what's the point in that?!? I'd rather go to the store, look around, and pay taxes that are lower than the shipping charge on ebay, plus have it home the same day. Plus, I like the guys at the hobby stores, help keep them in business. <br />Dean
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