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Where to Find Video Editing Software
Posted by C&O Fan on Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:55 PM

I've noticed some pretty fair Model Railroad Videos on this site

and was wondering where I could get some { hopefully Free} software

to add sounds and even music to my videos

which could also use some editing of lots of oops shots

 

TIA

 

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:05 PM

Google is your friend! Just type in "free video editing software". You'll get hundreds of links, here the first one I found:

http://www.desktop-video-guide.com/top-5-free-video-editing-software-review.html 

I've used the the Microsoft one, Some will even compress your file for posting on you-tube.

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Posted by Alantrains on Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:07 PM

Terry,

Have you tried Windows Movie Maker? It's in the accessories folder on my PC and comes with the MS Office pack I think.  You can do a lot with it including importing from camera, titles, cuts, lots of fancy scene changes like lap disolves (Fades from one scene to another), checkerboard, slide left/right, turn page and some special effects like blurring and embossing, brightening and darkening. You can also save the movie in various formats. It's what I use.

cheers

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Posted by tgindy on Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:06 PM

There are two websites that I go to daily, and you'll soon see why:

  • Gizmo's Freeware...

http://www.techsupportalert.com/

Go to the sections called "Hot Finds" and "Daily Tech Treats" daily, and; take your time researching the articles & reviews on virtually every type of freeware program you haven't even thought of yet.

  • Giveaway of the Day...

http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/

Example:  Today's GOTD is "FLV Editor Ultimate" and the download is absolutely awesome!

GOTD is always commercial software with a 24-hour time period to download, install, and activate.

Always read the GOTD reviews (just under the download) to understand how to activate the software; to see if you even want to download the software, and; see how these reviews may even direct you to equivalent, if not superior, freeware programs that do the "same thing" as that specific GOTD.

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Posted by Flashwave on Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:13 PM

Alantrains

Terry,

Have you tried Windows Movie Maker? It's in the accessories folder on my PC and comes with the MS Office pack I think.  You can do a lot with it including importing from camera, titles, cuts, lots of fancy scene changes like lap disolves (Fades from one scene to another), checkerboard, slide left/right, turn page and some special effects like blurring and embossing, brightening and darkening. You can also save the movie in various formats. It's what I use.

cheers

Or, it should be included with Service Pack 2

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Posted by videomaker on Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:30 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Alantrains

Terry,

Have you tried Windows Movie Maker? It's in the accessories folder on my PC and comes with the MS Office pack I think.  You can do a lot with it including importing from camera, titles, cuts, lots of fancy scene changes like lap disolves (Fades from one scene to another), checkerboard, slide left/right, turn page and some special effects like blurring and embossing, brightening and darkening. You can also save the movie in various formats. It's what I use.

cheers

MS Movie Maker doesnt come with soundbites or music..You have to import it from your library...

There is SoundWave and HotCakes that have music and other editing effects,dont know if they have a free downloadable version tho...Videomaker mag may advertise some try them if you havent found anything...

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Posted by CSXDixieLine on Friday, April 17, 2009 6:58 AM

I use Sony Vegas 8 for all of my video editing. It is not free, but I often see it at the local Fry's Electronics on sale for "virtually free." I purchased mine last year: the price was $59.99 with an instant $30 rebate and a mail in $30 rebate, so I basically paid sales tax minus one penny. In fact, Vegas 9 is now out and I saw the same deal at Fry's a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I was in the store making a company purchase and when I went back the next day to get the software, the sale had ended. But I will be ready the next time. Big Smile Jamie

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Posted by loathar on Friday, April 17, 2009 8:04 AM

What format are you recording in? The problem I have with using the free software is my camera only records Apple Quicktime movies. Good luck finding free software to convert Quicktime to a usable format.Dead
Windows Movie Maker IS pretty good if you can use it.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Friday, April 17, 2009 9:27 AM

loathar

What format are you recording in?

Snip

HUH ? Confused

Don't ask me that Teckie stuff !

I just turn the wheel on top of the camera to the little movie camera icon

and push the button and try to keep my fingers out of the way

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Posted by CSXDixieLine on Friday, April 17, 2009 2:10 PM

C&O Fan

loathar

What format are you recording in?

Snip

HUH ? Confused

Don't ask me that Teckie stuff !

I just turn the wheel on top of the camera to the little movie camera icon

and push the button and try to keep my fingers out of the way

The format could be important depending on your camera and the software. For example, my JVC video camera records in MPEG2 format which is not supported by several of the freeware video editors I tried before I started using Sony Vegas. Jamie

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Posted by fwright on Friday, April 17, 2009 2:53 PM

C&O Fan

loathar

What format are you recording in?

Snip

HUH ? Confused

Don't ask me that Teckie stuff !

I just turn the wheel on top of the camera to the little movie camera icon

and push the button and try to keep my fingers out of the way

I'm looking forward to your great videos, generated completed automatically, just by pushing the movie camera icon on the camera.  No knowledge or intervention on your part, just point and shoot - and the camera knows how to get it to a point where the rest of us can view it.

By the way, didn't you ask for software recommendations to process and upload the video?  OK, enough of the sarcasm.  Since not all video software (Microsoft Movie Maker for one) works with all recording formats, wouldn't it be helpful to learn what format you have, and what format you want for the output?  Does your camera record sound with the video?  Do the trains that you are recording produce sound that your camera is picking up?  Or do you need to embed sound into the video file?  Do you have suitable sound or music files available for that purpose?

What operating system does your computer use?  And the 2nd key question - what format does your camera record on - tape? DVD? memory card?  And if a memory card, do you have the appropriate card reader on or able to hook to your computer? Or do you plan to move the file to your computer via a cable from your camera?  If yes, what file extension (3 letters) are generated on your computer when you do the transfer?  Are you looking to burn your finished video to DVDs?  Blue Ray disks?  Or simply store them on the computer hard drive?  What video format(s) does the chosen upload site support?  Making a workable video processing software recommendation without this information is rather difficult.

Just like model railroading, producing good video that others will want to view requires a range of skills and at least some technical knowledge to execute - skills and knowledge that almost none of us had when we began.  And just like model railroading, learning is an important part of the journey into making good video.

I don't pretend to have the artistic side of video production down.  And I have learned a lot the hard way about the technical side just with simple tasks like making a slide show of photographs to play back on my father's DVD player - because he doesn't have a computer, and isn't interested in learning how to use one at this stage of his life.  The latter statement is really hard for me to take because he was a man who took himself from playing with toy trains to working on his NMRA MMR without the benefit of guidance besides some magazine articles and trial and error.  But back to the subject - I did learn that MS Movie Maker won't produce a DVD without buying some additional software.

From my experiences:

cameras:  Panasonic camcorder that used DV tapes, Olympus and Kodak cameras with video (no sound) recording to Xd and SD cards.

computers:  XP operating system with firewire (DV) port for the Pansonic camcorder, USB card readers for the other cameras

software:  MS Movie Maker - needs some understanding of various formats to get where I wanted to go, couldn't do DVDs.  Nero 9 - got 2 licenses for $70, supports DVD authoring and most all formats, video editing section leaves something to be desired, I ended up starting over several times because of inability to go back and change settings.  One of these days, I would like to try/buy Adobe Premiere Elements, but I really don't do enough video or have enough time to justify the purchase and learning curve.  For sound editing, I like Audacity (free download).  From what I have seen, all video and sound editing has something of a learning curve unless you are importing whatever is on your camera and sending it straight out unprocessed.

hope this helps

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:55 AM

Many standard cameras that shoot video use MOV format, which is an Apple format which Windows Movie Maker cannot use. You'll need a converter to convert it to AVI (uncompressed) or WMV (compressed) which Movie Maker can use. Other cameras shoot in different formats, however.

I used Movie Maker for a while, since my camcorder shoots WMV (a Microsoft filetype) files. Recently I switched to VideoSpin by Pinnacle, which is very similar but has a lot more capabilities: a sound library (although I use audio from prototype videos I've shot), TWO audio tracks available (instead of one in Movie Maker), and better titles and effects. It's free, has tutorials (I didn't watch them, but the program is very professionally done, so I assume they're pretty good) and you can download it here: 

http://cdnexpress.pinnaclesys.com/CDN/VideoSpin/2_0/VideoSpin_2_0_Setup.exe?language=EN

They are both easy to use, and are good examples of beginner-intermediate video editing software.

Here's a tutorial I created on how to produce model railroad videos using Movie Maker (the program includes good tutorials, but my tutorial is for model railroad videos specifically)

How to make a Model Railroad Video using Windows Movie Maker

If you have any more questions, I'd be happy to help. Just send me a PM and I'll try my best to answer your question. Good luck!

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Posted by C&O Fan on Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:10 AM

TrainManTy

Many standard cameras that shoot video use MOV format, which is an Apple format which Windows Movie Maker cannot use. You'll need a converter to convert it to AVI (uncompressed) or WMV (compressed) which Movie Maker can use. Other cameras shoot in different formats, however.

I used Movie Maker for a while, since my camcorder shoots WMV (a Microsoft filetype) files. Recently I switched to VideoSpin by Pinnacle, which is very similar but has a lot more capabilities: a sound library (although I use audio from prototype videos I've shot), TWO audio tracks available (instead of one in Movie Maker), and better titles and effects. It's free, has tutorials (I didn't watch them, but the program is very professionally done, so I assume they're pretty good) and you can download it here: 

http://cdnexpress.pinnaclesys.com/CDN/VideoSpin/2_0/VideoSpin_2_0_Setup.exe?language=EN

They are both easy to use, and are good examples of beginner-intermediate video editing software.

Here's a tutorial I created on how to produce model railroad videos using Movie Maker (the program includes good tutorials, but my tutorial is for model railroad videos specifically)

How to make a Model Railroad Video using Windows Movie Maker

If you have any more questions, I'd be happy to help. Just send me a PM and I'll try my best to answer your question. Good luck!

 

Thanks Ty

That's a very helpful How to video and after doing a search on my computer found out

It already has Windows Movie Maker on it

{ IMAGINE THAT !! }

I Checked my camera is a Canon Power Shot A 560 and uses an AVI format

but one of the weak points of this camera is it's fixed white balance unless you use manual mode

which i haven't done yet

The poor low light performance  gives my layout photos a yellow cast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVy-diKH2Qk

 

The best thing about the camera is it's small size . This allows me to set it right on the layout

and get close in shots

Here are the reviews

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=183&modelid=14904

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/A560/A560A.HTM

 

I downloaded the VideoSpin by Pinnacle software and will give it a try

but i don't think it will help the darkness of the pictures

Thanks !  

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Posted by Doc in CT on Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:15 AM

 For free software, PC Magazine has a summary article linking to reviews.

For commercial software try this link at PC Magazine

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Posted by C&O Fan on Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:29 PM

Doc in CT

 For free software, PC Magazine has a summary article linking to reviews.

For commercial software try this link at PC Magazine

Thanks Doc I'll check it out !

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Posted by loathar on Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:26 PM

C&O Fan -My still camera gets that yellowish cast to it if I shoot at a downward angle in automatic mode. (downwards away from the light source.) You might want to try shooting at a more level angle or moving your lights around if you can.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Monday, April 20, 2009 10:11 AM

loathar

C&O Fan -My still camera gets that yellowish cast to it if I shoot at a downward angle in automatic mode. (downwards away from the light source.) You might want to try shooting at a more level angle or moving your lights around if you can.

Hmmmmmmmmm

Well i've tried shooting level but it still has the same yellow cast to the picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WHbdVDJGZQ

 

Yesterday i changed some of the settings and this is as good as i can get it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBKb2_tGaMw

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Posted by Milepost 266.2 on Monday, April 20, 2009 1:13 PM

The yellow tint issue looks like a white balance problem.  See if you can change the setting from auto to indoors.  That might help, and won't affect any other auto settings you have (focus, shutter, etc.)

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Posted by C&O Fan on Monday, April 20, 2009 1:27 PM

Milepost 266.2

The yellow tint issue looks like a white balance problem.  See if you can change the setting from auto to indoors.  That might help, and won't affect any other auto settings you have (focus, shutter, etc.)

 

Yes your right it is a White balance problem

But once in movie mode it's hard to change

Low light quality is a common complaint on this camera

http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/canon-powershot-a560/4505-6501_7-32314658.html

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Posted by CSXDixieLine on Monday, April 20, 2009 5:49 PM

C&O Fan

Milepost 266.2

The yellow tint issue looks like a white balance problem.  See if you can change the setting from auto to indoors.  That might help, and won't affect any other auto settings you have (focus, shutter, etc.)

 

Yes your right it is a White balance problem

But once in movie mode it's hard to change

Low light quality is a common complaint on this camera

http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/canon-powershot-a560/4505-6501_7-32314658.html

Terry, I feel your pain--I have a comparable Canon camera and it has the same limitation. I love the camera and it shoots great video most of the time, but it just doesn't have a whole lot of manual control when in video mode. I finally went out and purchased a JVC video camera when I decided the Canon wasn't keeping up with even my video skills. Smile BTW, techinical issues aside, that is a great video you posted. Jamie

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:36 AM

CSXDixieLine

C&O Fan

Milepost 266.2

The yellow tint issue looks like a white balance problem.  See if you can change the setting from auto to indoors.  That might help, and won't affect any other auto settings you have (focus, shutter, etc.)

 

Yes your right it is a White balance problem

But once in movie mode it's hard to change

Low light quality is a common complaint on this camera

http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/canon-powershot-a560/4505-6501_7-32314658.html

Terry, I feel your pain--I have a comparable Canon camera and it has the same limitation. I love the camera and it shoots great video most of the time, but it just doesn't have a whole lot of manual control when in video mode. I finally went out and purchased a JVC video camera when I decided the Canon wasn't keeping up with even my video skills. Smile BTW, techinical issues aside, that is a great video you posted. Jamie

Thanks Jamie

I doubt i will shoot enough video to justify a new camera

this is as light as i could make it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3RcmqkPj3U

and i was happy with it till the end when the loco pushes the bush down the track

Banged Head

I wonder if Speilburg started like this Sigh

 

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:28 PM

Well I tried Windows  Movie Maker and also tried Pinnacle video spin

I like the fade in and out features on Movie Maker

But Pinnacle has a small sound library thats nice

Even has a steam train sound track

Both are similar in nature and easy to learn

But neither will help lighten or darken the video its self

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Posted by C&O Fan on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:54 AM

Here's a short clip using the sound clip in the

Pinnacle video spin software

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G3lLmPr68w

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