Has anyopne visited Trainlandz lately? What kind of shape is it in?
Thanks for replying.
Bill
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lvanhen wrote:It's not a NMRA award winning layout from a "modeling" perspective, but the genius of designing it, plus most of it build by him in 2 years, is incredible!!
Precisely. It's fantasy, it's bizarre, it's over the top and it's fun....and it's got lots o' trains scurrying around!
Dave
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alfadawg01 wrote: lvanhen wrote:It's not a NMRA award winning layout from a "modeling" perspective, but the genius of designing it, plus most of it build by him in 2 years, is incredible!! Precisely. It's fantasy, it's bizarre, it's over the top and it's fun....and it's got lots o' trains scurrying around!
Didn't somebody tell me that the Northlandz scenery was made of concrete? If so, I doubt that it will show much wear and tear unless the Joisey cockroaches carry jackhammers...
Of COURSE it's a fantasy. So are the many things on flanged wheels at Disney World. Really serious model railroaders will search in vain for switching puzzles and single-track meets, but that's not what it's about. People (INCLUDING serious model railroaders) who are willing to suspend their disbelief will enjoy the one mile stroll through dreamland and come out smiling.
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
tomikawaTT wrote: Didn't somebody tell me that the Northlandz scenery was made of concrete? If so, I doubt that it will show much wear and tear unless the Joisey cockroaches carry jackhammers...Of COURSE it's a fantasy. So are the many things on flanged wheels at Disney World. Really serious model railroaders will search in vain for switching puzzles and single-track meets, but that's not what it's about. People (INCLUDING serious model railroaders) who are willing to suspend their disbelief will enjoy the one mile stroll through dreamland and come out smiling.Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
Have you actually SEEN it?
It isn't even a well-done fantasy; it is slapped-together, poorly done work which was obviously created by someone motivated by wanting to be able to claim he had a really big layout.
I'm happy to suspend my disbelief, if the subject is worth the effort. But this one doesn't even try.
And Walt Disney, a model railroader who believed in excellence, would roll over in his grave if he knew you'd used his name in the same post as this...display.
Midnight Railroader wrote: tomikawaTT wrote: Didn't somebody tell me that the Northlandz scenery was made of concrete? If so, I doubt that it will show much wear and tear unless the Joisey cockroaches carry jackhammers...Of COURSE it's a fantasy. So are the many things on flanged wheels at Disney World. Really serious model railroaders will search in vain for switching puzzles and single-track meets, but that's not what it's about. People (INCLUDING serious model railroaders) who are willing to suspend their disbelief will enjoy the one mile stroll through dreamland and come out smiling.Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)Have you actually SEEN it? It isn't even a well-done fantasy; it is slapped-together, poorly done work which was obviously created by someone motivated by wanting to be able to claim he had a really big layout.I'm happy to suspend my disbelief, if the subject is worth the effort. But this one doesn't even try.And Walt Disney, a model railroader who believed in excellence, would roll over in his grave if he knew you'd used his name in the same post as this...display.
Have YOU actually seen it? I was there the week after it opened & several more times with the grandsons. As I stated earlier - it's not for the NMRA competitions for rivet counters, it's a fun place for "kids from 3 to 93"!!
There's a DC3 stuck into a mountain with one wing, and the passengers are dancing on the wing because they all survived!! There's an outhouse factory!! There's grannys place - a quarry wanted to buy her property & she wouldn't sell, so they mined around her place leaving her on a mountain hundreds of feet in the air with verticle sides - and she put her outhouse over the quarry!!
There's a city with 7' or 8' high skyscrapers, a winter scene, an old time western fort with cowboys & indians, a hotel on the side of a cliff hundreds of feet up, a model of the bridge on the Firth of Fourth made from balsa and 35' long, and more than would fill a page or two in this forum!!
No, it's not "fine scale modeling", it's more like HO scale Disneyland!!
The verticle height of the layout is 35 or 45 actual feet (don't remember which) and to answer another poster's question, the "ground cover" is sheets dipped in concrete - it's a commercial structure and there are fire codes to comply with, as well as the need to climb on the scenery for maintenance.
The design is pure genius - you walk on a continuous ramp spiraling to the top and back down - you never cross the walk and you see every scene from 3 or 4 angles. Some of the scenes are decorated differently on opposite sides so you don't know you have seen it once or twice before!!
There is a huge pipe organ that's played every hour or so, and a doll collection for the ladies from 3 to 93!!
There have been previous posts about Northlandz - use the search on the forum - you will find your opinion is in about a 2 or 3% minority. If you can't enjoy Northlandz - you'll probably hate the hereafter - no matter which direction you go!!
I agree. Its a neat place to see with very impressive/creative ideas. I've been there once with my 2 toddlers. No need to go back anytime soon.
If you'd like to see an impressive layout in the NJ area, check out the Union Model Railroad club in union NJ. very impressive N and HO layout with friendly members.
lvanhen wrote: Have YOU actually seen it? I was there the week after it opened & several more times with the grandsons. As I stated earlier - it's not for the NMRA competitions for rivet counters, it's a fun place for "kids from 3 to 93"!!There's a DC3 stuck into a mountain with one wing, and the passengers are dancing on the wing because they all survived!! There's an outhouse factory!! There's grannys place - a quarry wanted to buy her property & she wouldn't sell, so they mined around her place leaving her on a mountain hundreds of feet in the air with verticle sides - and she put her outhouse over the quarry!!There's a city with 7' or 8' high skyscrapers, a winter scene, an old time western fort with cowboys & indians, a hotel on the side of a cliff hundreds of feet up, a model of the bridge on the Firth of Fourth made from balsa and 35' long, and more than would fill a page or two in this forum!!No, it's not "fine scale modeling", it's more like HO scale Disneyland!!
See, the issue is NOT that it isn't "fine scale" modeling.
The problem is, even as fantasy, it's not done well. It looks cheap and thrown together--something Disney never does.
Yes, it has lots of cute scenes. But isn't it possible to do quality work and have it be fun?
Or does 'fun' mean it's okay to do a half-you-know-what job in the creation?
And, by the way, the fact that you claim my opinion is in the minority doesn't sway me; it makes me wonder when it became acceptable to do substandard work--and charge people to see it--as long as it's fun.
Since some of you keep comparing it to Disney (which demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the Disney entertainment philosophy), I'll point out that their parks would be long out of business if they paid attention to quality as little as the guy who slapped together Northlandz.
I will immediately concede that Northlandz proves the old adage that you can do something fast, or carefully, but not both. Commercial/financial reality being what it is, Northlandz went for fast.
I will also concede that the sight of spiderweb bridges a thousand scale feet in the air makes the civil engineer in me cringe! That's where the suspension of disbelief comes in.
I read, and sometimes write, science fiction. Maybe that makes it easier to suspend my disbelief. OTOH, a dyed-in-the-wool rivet counter, confronted with my layout, would undoubtedly have a frothing fit - before I assisted him back to the world outside the layout room door.
I leave the form the assistance would take as an exercise for your imagination...
I kinda like the organ and doll collection there.
lvanhenThere have been previous posts about Northlandz - use the search on the forum - you will find your opinion is in about a 2 or 3% minority
There have been previous posts about Northlandz - use the search on the forum - you will find your opinion is in about a 2 or 3% minority
So? Doesn't make it any less valid.
If you can't enjoy Northlandz - you'll probably hate the hereafter
I was going to say you must have exceedingly low expectations if you equate the hereafter with a commercial model railroad display - but I suppose they're both just someone else's fantasy.
I've never been there, though I've seen quite a few pictures of it from time to time. It kinda/sorta reminds me of the Fritz Lang classic movie METROPOLIS--and that's WEIRD!
Tom
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