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Blueline AC6000 question

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Blueline AC6000 question
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:12 PM
How do you remove the shell of a BLI Blueline AC6000?
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Posted by ho modern modeler on Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:57 PM
I've got another question, on the new Paragon or whatever "Sound, DCC Ready" line of AC6000's: Besides over $100 in price, what's the difference???

Mine doesn't move.......it's at the station!!!

 

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, September 14, 2008 9:30 AM

You don't need to remove the shell if you just want to install a motor decoder.  Pull the cooling radiator off of the rear of the locomotive and the decoder socket is exposed.

The instructions that came with my AC6000 said to remove the couplers and shell to install a decoder, but those instructions are wrong.  The available space for a motor decoder is so cramped that only one of the decoders recommended by BLI will fit.  I think the TCS decoder is the best option of the three recommended brands.

The BlueLine sound decoder is the clearest and best sound of any I have owned.  The Broadway Limited Paragon models use a QSI decoder and the BlueLine uses their own proprietary sound system.  The QSI decoder is sound, motor, and lights all in one, and the BlueLine decoder is sound and lights only.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 15, 2008 6:24 PM
I need to take the shell off so I can oil it unless you do not have to take the shell off to oil it.
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Posted by cacole on Monday, September 15, 2008 7:52 PM
The BlueLine instructions say to remove the couplers and pull the shell straight up to remove it from the body; however, when I tried this because I didn't know the BlueLine decoder installation instructions were wrong, the rear part of the shell would not simply pull off like they say.  The cab seemed to be very tightly glued to the rear part of the shell and would not separate from it, causing several small pieces of heat shrink tubing to fall out of the front of the cab and disconnect the headlight LED.  Your model should not need to be lubricated by you for several years, and be prepared to cause major damage when you do remove the shell if you really think it must be removed for oiling.
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Posted by Robby P. on Monday, September 15, 2008 8:16 PM

Heres a shot of the chip socket.  I had a AC6000 Southern Pacific engine.  I weathered it, but I didn't take the cover off. 

 "Rust, whats not to love?"      

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Posted by StillGrande on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:48 AM
The Stealth models (No sound, no decoder) from BLI do not have a decoder pocket.  You do have to take the shell off to install a decoder or whatever.  Instructions refer to this model.
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Posted by jasperofzeal on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:35 AM

Just for the heck of it...

As others have done, I just pulled off the radiator part to install my decoder.  I used a Digitrax DH165IP, which was not one of the listed decoders.  It is a very good fit for the given space in the loco.

TONY

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Posted by StillGrande on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:20 PM
Stealth locomotive does not have the quick plug.  I have one.  I also have the quick plug version.  If I had a choice between the two, I would take the quick plug, even at the higher price.  It is worth every penny. 
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2008 7:11 PM

 cacole wrote:
Your model should not need to be lubricated by you for several years, and be prepared to cause major damage when you do remove the shell if you really think it must be removed for oiling.

 So, if I understand you right, these are lubed from the factory?

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Posted by mj3200 on Friday, September 19, 2008 9:01 PM

I should be getting my AC6000 next week some time and it will be my first BLI Diesel. I was also hoping to lube the towers as all 10 or so of my steamers were bone dry when they came. Is this not practical then?

Jonathan

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, September 19, 2008 9:20 PM

 Jonathan, not a bad idea with the luck I have had with BLI / PCM. With a few more problems with my steam engines I could work for PCM / BLI ! There are no tower gears in the AC 6000's. Inside they look like a Athearn or Proto 2000. Motor in the center and fly wheels on both ends.

 I have have 3 Blue Line GE AC 6000's and lube has yet to be a problem. If you have to pull the shell, it does not pull straight up! If you need to know I will help but it is a true pain in the caboose! My speakers picked up some metal (in the belly tank) and I had to take one a part. Broke the head light.

 

                           Cuda Ken

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Posted by mj3200 on Friday, September 19, 2008 9:28 PM

Sounds like a nightmare Ken. I've been OK so far with my regular BLIs once they are run in, but the Blue Lines aren't so good. No doubt about that.

Now I'm wondering why I'm getting this Loco. I'll love it when it comes.

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Posted by mj3200 on Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:39 PM

Well in spite of my worries mine arrived today and it's a brilliant engine. Get one and at 130 bucks it's a steal.

Compares verywell so far with the Katos and you won't hear that from me often!!!

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