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Posted by GraniteRailroader on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:38 PM
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

Just make your own!

It ends up being about the same price, you can control the quality, and it's fun!

How about a tutorial on that? Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:41 PM

I just had a disturbing thought - suppose the aim of these Belgian wafflers or Brazilian marketeers, whichever they are, is not to take away our "American Heritage," but rather to expand and export it?  What if their plan is to take our "King Kong of Beers" and flood the world with it?  You know, dominate the world beer market the way Bud dominates the American beer market?

After all, Coca-Cola is already one of the most recognized products on the planet, with true worldwide distribution and a huge market share.  I could, unfortunately, see many nations taking our light, almost soft drink-line Buda-Cola into their hearts.  They've accepted McDonalds and Jerry Lewis, after all.

By the way, I drink a lot of Bud.  It's not what I have with a nice meal, or when I just want to sit down and enjoy a beer, but rather when I'm thirsty and don't want a Coke.  I regard Bud and Harpoon, my house beer, as two different classes of product that happen to be sold in the same kind of store.

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Posted by twhite on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:53 PM

Mr. Beasley--

Anyone who wants to see how Coca-Cola has saturated the world market should watch Billy Wilder's hilarious slam-bang 1960 political satire movie "ONE, TWO, THREE". 

And if you're ever in Heidelberg, run, do not walk to the nearest McDonalds and try out their "GrosserMac".  It's absolutely AMAZING what a little German ingenuity can do to pep up the world's worst hamburger, LOL!

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Posted by markpierce on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:13 PM
 twhite wrote:

Mr. Beasley--

Anyone who wants to see how Coca-Cola has saturated the world market should watch Billy Wilder's hilarious slam-bang 1960 political satire movie "ONE, TWO, THREE". 

And if you're ever in Heidelberg, run, do not walk to the nearest McDonalds and try out their "GrosserMac".  It's absolutely AMAZING what a little German ingenuity can do to pep up the world's worst hamburger, LOL!

Tom Big Smile [:D]

Several years ago I achieved one of my life-time goals of eating a hamburger in Hamburg,  Germany.  I wouldn't even think of going to McDonalds or Burger King to accomplish that.  Instead I had a Hess Burger in front of the rathaus.  (That was a two-for-one trip because I also ate a frankfurter in Frankfurt.)

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:36 PM
 markpierce wrote:
  Several years ago I achieved one of my life-time goals of eating a hamburger in Hamburg,  Germany.  I wouldn't even think of going to McDonalds or Burger King to accomplish that.  Instead I had a Hess Burger in front of the rathaus.  (That was a two-for-one trip because I also ate a frankfurter in Frankfurt.)

Mark

You could have travelled a bit more and had a "Berliner" in Berlin.  As I recall, a Berliner is a pastry, kind of like a cruller.  The citizens must have thought JFK's "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech had a strange ring to it.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:02 PM
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. . . . . . . . . . All of this happened, of course, because of the Industrial Revolution and ... The Railroad . . . . . . . . . . And at the same time, there was great upheaval.  The entire economic order was being re-born, and many skeptics wondered if it would end in calamity for the nation, and the world . . . . . . . . . .
And don't forget that despicable potato that made it all possible!

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Posted by shawnee on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:40 PM
 twhite wrote:

You might not want to hold your breath while you wait. Several articles in the Wall Street Journal over the past month have painted InBev not as a company run by Belgian brewers, but rather by aggressive Brazilian marketeers. Disapprove [V] Chances are good they will push Bud even more in the direction of lowest-common-denominator hop-flavored carbonated beverage aimed at the widest possible world market. Bleghh!

Yup, it's a total mash-up - it's a Brazilian owned company that's headquartered in Belgium.  The Brazilians own Bud.   The South Africans own Miller.  These brands aren't going to be brewed in Brazil or South Africa.  Who cares?  In the end, it's just cheap beer.

Not that any of this matters, it's all a big game - Coors, Rocky Mountains?  Ha!  the Colorado facility is in the foothills outside of Denver, and most Coors is brewed elsewhere - what a marketing joke!

Now CSX getting messed with by a British hedge fund that won't disclose it's funding sources, that's worrisome for the nation.  That's about national infrastructure!

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Posted by twhite on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:50 PM
 markpierce wrote:
 twhite wrote:

Mr. Beasley--

Anyone who wants to see how Coca-Cola has saturated the world market should watch Billy Wilder's hilarious slam-bang 1960 political satire movie "ONE, TWO, THREE". 

And if you're ever in Heidelberg, run, do not walk to the nearest McDonalds and try out their "GrosserMac".  It's absolutely AMAZING what a little German ingenuity can do to pep up the world's worst hamburger, LOL!

Tom Big Smile [:D]

Several years ago I achieved one of my life-time goals of eating a hamburger in Hamburg,  Germany.  I wouldn't even think of going to McDonalds or Burger King to accomplish that.  Instead I had a Hess Burger in front of the rathaus.  (That was a two-for-one trip because I also ate a frankfurter in Frankfurt.)

Mark

Mark: 

Another wonderful European 'tour' is to visit the Carlsberg Brewery right out of Tivoli in Copenhagen.  In their little tasting tavern, you slip off your footwear, slide your feet into some sandals, a cute little barmaid measures your foot and you end up with a 'stein' the length of your foot full of one of Denmark's BEST beers!  I'm an 11-E.  Can you imagine the condition I was in after TWO of them, LOL?  And I had to accompany a soprano in a Lieder recital the next day.  Boy, did THAT hurt, LOL!

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:58 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:
 markpierce wrote:
  Several years ago I achieved one of my life-time goals of eating a hamburger in Hamburg,  Germany.  I wouldn't even think of going to McDonalds or Burger King to accomplish that.  Instead I had a Hess Burger in front of the rathaus.  (That was a two-for-one trip because I also ate a frankfurter in Frankfurt.)

Mark

You could have travelled a bit more and had a "Berliner" in Berlin.  As I recall, a Berliner is a pastry, kind of like a cruller.  The citizens must have thought JFK's "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech had a strange ring to it.

They knew exactly what he meant. His grammar was correct. German for "doughnut" is "der Berliner," not "ein Berliner."

Cute story, but not accurate.

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Posted by markpierce on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:12 PM
 twhite wrote:
 markpierce wrote:
 twhite wrote:

Mr. Beasley--

Anyone who wants to see how Coca-Cola has saturated the world market should watch Billy Wilder's hilarious slam-bang 1960 political satire movie "ONE, TWO, THREE". 

And if you're ever in Heidelberg, run, do not walk to the nearest McDonalds and try out their "GrosserMac".  It's absolutely AMAZING what a little German ingenuity can do to pep up the world's worst hamburger, LOL!

Tom Big Smile [:D]

Several years ago I achieved one of my life-time goals of eating a hamburger in Hamburg,  Germany.  I wouldn't even think of going to McDonalds or Burger King to accomplish that.  Instead I had a Hess Burger in front of the rathaus.  (That was a two-for-one trip because I also ate a frankfurter in Frankfurt.)

Mark

Mark: 

Another wonderful European 'tour' is to visit the Carlsberg Brewery right out of Tivoli in Copenhagen.  In their little tasting tavern, you slip off your footwear, slide your feet into some sandals, a cute little barmaid measures your foot and you end up with a 'stein' the length of your foot full of one of Denmark's BEST beers!  I'm an 11-E.  Can you imagine the condition I was in after TWO of them, LOL?  And I had to accompany a soprano in a Lieder recital the next day.  Boy, did THAT hurt, LOL!

Tom Shock [:O]

Thanks to you, Tom, I am no longer fond of my small feet.

Mark Sad [:(]

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Posted by csmith9474 on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:02 PM
 markpierce wrote:
 twhite wrote:
 markpierce wrote:
 twhite wrote:

Mr. Beasley--

Anyone who wants to see how Coca-Cola has saturated the world market should watch Billy Wilder's hilarious slam-bang 1960 political satire movie "ONE, TWO, THREE". 

And if you're ever in Heidelberg, run, do not walk to the nearest McDonalds and try out their "GrosserMac".  It's absolutely AMAZING what a little German ingenuity can do to pep up the world's worst hamburger, LOL!

Tom Big Smile [:D]

Several years ago I achieved one of my life-time goals of eating a hamburger in Hamburg,  Germany.  I wouldn't even think of going to McDonalds or Burger King to accomplish that.  Instead I had a Hess Burger in front of the rathaus.  (That was a two-for-one trip because I also ate a frankfurter in Frankfurt.)

Mark

Mark: 

Another wonderful European 'tour' is to visit the Carlsberg Brewery right out of Tivoli in Copenhagen.  In their little tasting tavern, you slip off your footwear, slide your feet into some sandals, a cute little barmaid measures your foot and you end up with a 'stein' the length of your foot full of one of Denmark's BEST beers!  I'm an 11-E.  Can you imagine the condition I was in after TWO of them, LOL?  And I had to accompany a soprano in a Lieder recital the next day.  Boy, did THAT hurt, LOL!

Tom Shock [:O]

Thanks to you, Tom, I am no longer fond of my small feet.

Mark Sad [:(]

I really have to get back over there. I wear a 14!!!!

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Posted by SilverSpike on Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:11 PM
 shawnee wrote:
 twhite wrote:

You might not want to hold your breath while you wait. Several articles in the Wall Street Journal over the past month have painted InBev not as a company run by Belgian brewers, but rather by aggressive Brazilian marketeers. Disapprove [V] Chances are good they will push Bud even more in the direction of lowest-common-denominator hop-flavored carbonated beverage aimed at the widest possible world market. Bleghh!

Yup, it's a total mash-up - it's a Brazilian owned company that's headquartered in Belgium.  The Brazilians own Bud.   The South Africans own Miller.  These brands aren't going to be brewed in Brazil or South Africa.  Who cares?  In the end, it's just cheap beer.

Not that any of this matters, it's all a big game - Coors, Rocky Mountains?  Ha!  the Colorado facility is in the foothills outside of Denver, and most Coors is brewed elsewhere - what a marketing joke!

Now CSX getting messed with by a British hedge fund that won't disclose it's funding sources, that's worrisome for the nation.  That's about national infrastructure!

You know....when we were touring the Coor's brewery in Golden, CO it sits right along Clear Creek which does come out of the Rockies, so you would guess that at least the cans and bottles coming from there are brewed with Rocky Mtn. water. But they also have brewery locations throughout the states....awe shucks....I bet they truck that mountain spring water all over the country just to brew that Coors Banquet Beer the way Adolph wanted it to be......Right.....

And speaking of big brewery corps......looks like Miller and Coors have joined together now to form MillerCoors, looks like another mega merger snuck right in under our beer tasting noses....

I guess it's history just repeating itself as corporations continue to merger into monster monopoly giants!

We are familiar with that happening in the railroad industry for decades now aren't we! Just look at the Railroad History web pages that trains.com has and you can see the trend of corporate mergers and acquisitions started a long time ago.

Those beers will continue to get watered down it seems.....so I'll stick to Abita Beer.

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Posted by tatans on Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:04 AM
Bud's gone, maybe they will start making beer now, what's next??? Mcdonalds? KFC? Try living in Canada and see who owns All the businesses, Gee could it be the U.S.?  Another one went this week,The Hudson Bay Company was bought up and is now American owned, Canadians are used to being owned and operated by the U.S. I think most Americans better start to learn to speak Flemish??? or Belgium (along with spanish) before too long. The move to invest in the U.S. from foreign countries is just beginning, wait till "europe" and India and China start bidding for American companies, remember, stockholders voted to sell Bud for a couple of bucks, so who is really at fault here.
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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:42 AM

I remember seeing the Coors brewery on a visit to the Colorado Railroad Museum.  Very impressive operation!  More impressive were the parade of beer trains departing every hour.

I'm not a big fan of Coors products, but on tap the original Coors is actually quite drinkable.  But the Coors operation in Golden is awesome to see.  Fermenters bigger than my house!

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