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Lettered or logo?
Posted by river_eagle on Sunday, June 8, 2008 3:58 PM

I can't decide which one I prefer, so I thought I would get everyones opinion.

Which do you like more, the lettered of the logo version?

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Posted by Tjsingle on Sunday, June 8, 2008 4:04 PM

with cabooses its good to have a variety, i like the logo personally.

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Posted by john1947 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 4:07 PM
Logo!!! Approve [^]
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Posted by phatkat64 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 4:09 PM
Logo definately!

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Posted by ChessieFan13 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 4:17 PM

Logo for sure,  and an Idea

How old is the Turtle Creek?  If its abit older whynot  do the white logo on the red caboose and use the other color as a base on another caboose and use red lettering.  It would give age to the Turtle

Just my thoughts

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Posted by Dean-58 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 4:20 PM
 Tjsingle wrote:

with cabooses its good to have a variety, i like the logo personally.

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I go along with the first part of Tjsingle's reply, though I'd have some wood cabeese with the lettering and save the "herald" for the steel hacks.  By the way, one of the reasons I'd never model the modern era is the lack of cabeese: to me, it's not a train unless it has the "All-gone!" on the end.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, June 8, 2008 4:23 PM
Definately the logo.

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Posted by gmcrail on Sunday, June 8, 2008 6:14 PM

I'm going to go against the flow, here, and say lettered, but with a change:  I'd move the "TURTLE CREEK" lettering above the window line, and put the "CENTRAL" in line with the center of the windows.  

 

Those are nice cabeese, BTW. Smile [:)] 

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Posted by Paul3 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:08 PM

river_eagle,
I'll lay a completely different idea on you: do both.  Take a quick Google image search on cabooses, and you'll see that most caboose paint schemes that had logos also had the name of the railroad spelled out.  Or at the very least, had the reporting marks.  The Turtle logo does not have the RR name, just the turtle and the slogan.  This would be fairly rare in caboose paint schemes not to have the RR name somewhere obvious (it's a company car, after all).

IMHO, what you might try is moving the "CLASS NE-3" to the right near the handrail (nice New Haven touch there, as well as the "C-507"...if you have the Microscale directions, look at the "Contributers" Smile [:)]).  Also, on a side note, you should have the weight of the caboose on there somewhere.

Anyways, if you move the "CLASS NE-3" out of the way, then you can drop the "C-507" towards the sill.  Why?  So that you can put "TURTLE CREEK CENTRAL" under the rivet panel under the windows...straight across.

Using the magic of MS Paint, here's my idea:

Whaddya think?

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Posted by river_eagle on Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:19 PM

Paul, in a ironic twist of fate, these were just yesterday, New Haven Proto 1000 cabooses.

the only change made was to remove the "New Haven" lettering from between the windows, and repacle it with the TCC lettering on one and the loco on the other.

The number and caboose designation are the original factory pad printing,hence they both have the same number right now.

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Posted by Tjsingle on Sunday, June 8, 2008 9:01 PM
 Paul3 wrote:

river_eagle,
I'll lay a completely different idea on you: do both.  Take a quick Google image search on cabooses, and you'll see that most caboose paint schemes that had logos also had the name of the railroad spelled out.  Or at the very least, had the reporting marks.  The Turtle logo does not have the RR name, just the turtle and the slogan.  This would be fairly rare in caboose paint schemes not to have the RR name somewhere obvious (it's a company car, after all).

IMHO, what you might try is moving the "CLASS NE-3" to the right near the handrail (nice New Haven touch there, as well as the "C-507"...if you have the Microscale directions, look at the "Contributers" Smile [:)]).  Also, on a side note, you should have the weight of the caboose on there somewhere.

Anyways, if you move the "CLASS NE-3" out of the way, then you can drop the "C-507" towards the sill.  Why?  So that you can put "TURTLE CREEK CENTRAL" under the rivet panel under the windows...straight across.

Using the magic of MS Paint, here's my idea:

Whaddya think?

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 I like that, its better than just the logo.

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Posted by Paul3 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 9:02 PM

river_eagle,
Ah, well that explains it.  I did not know that P1K did these in NH (since the NH didn't have Northeastern-style cabooses).

Hmm...  If you want to be able to leave as much factory lettering as possible, then I would add "TCC" under the right-most window on the right side of the "logo" caboose.  But that's just me.

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Posted by lvanhen on Sunday, June 8, 2008 9:06 PM
I like Paul 3's scheme better also!!Cool [8D]
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Posted by wm3798 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 10:59 PM

No... Logo only.  Much cleaner.

Plus, it reminds me of one of my favorites....

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Posted by wedudler on Monday, June 9, 2008 5:26 AM

You will only see at one time one side!

Why not one side with logo and the other side lettered?  

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, June 9, 2008 8:00 AM

FWIW in railroading it's generally called a "herald" not a "logo", although logo does seem to get used more in recent years.

Many railroads would have both. Older cabooses with the RR name and no. on it, and newer ones using the herald instead. Do one with the name and weather it a bit more, and then leave the one with the herald a little cleaner indicating a recently painted car.

Although I do like Paul's idea of using both. Smile [:)]

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Posted by teen steam fan on Monday, June 9, 2008 5:21 PM
Lettered personally

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Posted by loathar on Monday, June 9, 2008 6:26 PM
Herald only. (weren't they also called drum heads?)
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Posted by lvanhen on Monday, June 9, 2008 7:08 PM
Drumheads were on the rear of pass observation cars - or snare drums as the case may be!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by river_eagle on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:23 AM
 wjstix wrote:

FWIW in railroading it's generally called a "herald" not a "logo", although logo does seem to get used more in recent years.

 Smile [:)]

Yes, I know, but the title of the thread flows better with matching "L" words

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