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Ed, One of the reasons I have enjoyed model railroading for the past 50 years (thirty of them passively while busy with a career) is the friends that are created, and the generosity exchanging information. Thanks. Now, down to work. I found the book yesterday and bought it. I understand better now what you are saying. I don't have 20' for a suspension bridge. I am modeling the fifties so I can have both steam and early diesels. I am also trying to follow C&NW's format. The layout is currently designed as a point to point, but I have left room for a return loop in the future, and some double track. (I have a moderate sized yard from my dismantled precious layout). One end of the loop has a high area iron mining hill, the other end an ore barge dock. I think I can picture your suggestion about the false bridge. As I see it, I would create scenery which would drop several inches down for the bridge section and still allow room for a duckunder. This would probaly provide room also for center piers, if desired. As to modeling rugged mountains, probably not. The highest elevation is about eight inches. I think hills would be more appropriate. I have already spanned the opening with a removable section of code 100 flex track because I am not familiar with code 83. The location of the bridge is front and center, and a main point of interest. That's why it is important to me. Thanks again. By the way, tell me about your railroad and where do you live. I'm in St. Charles, IL about 35 miles west of Chicago and enjoying retirement in model railroading. polyjim
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