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Posted by mj3200 on Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:24 PM
Has anyone any experience of this product? How does it compare with cork, how quiet is it etc?
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Posted by twhite on Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:41 PM

I use it on my Yuba River Sub, and I like it.  It's a little 'spongier' than cork, but it takes ballasting very well, and it's proven to be a good sound deadener. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:58 PM

Some people really like it but I bought a roll (HO Gauge) and personally I did not care for it at all.  I put it back in the box and put it on a shelf.

The issues that I had with it:

  • Does not lay flat when curved.  Even on mild, 28" radius curves it wants to bunch-up.  I tried spliting it to half width and still had the issue.  I assume that with enough glue and patience it could be worked flat.
  • Does not split easily.  I work with centerlines for track placement so I would like to be able to split my roadbed.  Even though there is a partial centerline split in the trackbed, I could not split it without using a knife.  It was impossible to get a clean straight line when spliting.  I am sure that some sort of jig could be made to split it cleanly but I did not try.
  • Squishy.  I just did not feel comfortable about the "feel" of the roadbed and the stability of the track that would go on it.  I would imagine that once ballast was laid and glued then this would become a non-issue but it can be a long time between laying track and ballasting.

I do glue (adhesive caulk) my track and my roadbed so that would be the same in either case but I am just more confortable with a firm, definable roadbed surface (I use Homabed).

I know others with more experience can probably give you better feedback.

Good luck,
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Posted by Dallas Model Works on Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:05 PM

I use it.

It's dead quiet and I've had none of the issues rustyrails had.

As for laying it on curves, I use white glue and then tack it or put weight on it until the glue dries -- easy!

On my HO layout I use the HO roadbed for mainlines and N roadbed (with some fill in the middle) for sidings.

 

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Posted by Robby P. on Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:16 PM
I use it.  I love it.  I have used cork, and just not happy with it.  I have had it work in straights and in yards, and even curves.  Iis very quiet, and very easy to work with. 

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Posted by Lillen on Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:34 PM

I use it. And I plan to use it on my next layout to. It works great. I use latex caulk to put it down and it have never caused me any problems what so ever. I use 36" curves as a minimum and have never had any problems on curves.

 

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Posted by loathar on Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:44 PM
Hated it! Just the opposite experience. LOUD and spongy. Pain in the butt to smooth the shoulders out for ballasting. Can't say enough bad things about it. Threw 2 brand new rolls away. I could have given them to somebody, but that would have just been plain mean.Mischief [:-,]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:06 PM
Its just a personal preference like, what manufacture of engines is best?  Kato, Athearn, P2K, T55 or Atlas its your opinion.  I personally like cork roadbed.
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Posted by CTValleyRR on Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:08 PM

It's all I've ever used, so I can't compare it to cork.  However, it's extremely quiet (about a quarter as loud as the same loco running on my son's PowerLoc track is).

 I've also never had an issue with curving it, even on 18" radius curves.  I split it down the middle, spread tacky glue (craft glue) over the subroadbed, and smooth it down, laying one side at a time (that makes it easier to see the centerline of your subroadbed, too).  The tacky glue is sticky enough to hold it in place until the glue dries.  Sure, there are small wrinkles in it on curves, but you can't see that through the ballast.  It doesn't affect operations.

Speaking of which, I have no trouble ballasting it.  I use an old paintbrush to spread the tackyglue on the shoulders, then sprinkle a little ballast on them and let it dry.  Then I go back over it with a second coat of ballast and lock everything down with diluted matte medium.  Works like a charm.  I have even had success pulling it up with a putty knife and reusing it!

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Posted by Master of Big Sky Blue on Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:30 PM

IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wont Hold Track nails for love nor money. The Vikings will win the Super Bowl before I ever use Track Bed again.

Cork in my opinion is and always has been the best way to go.

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Posted by ARTHILL on Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:42 PM
I am a fan when used with latex caulk on both the roadbed and the track. When I have to spike, I just pound a few into the ply sub bed. When I lay on foam, I use long pins, but caulk works best.
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Posted by CTValleyRR on Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:53 PM
Just a hunch:  it looks like people who use adhesives to hold their track in place like it, and those who use nails hate it....

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:00 PM

 

Prefer it.,  Easy to use.  Can't beat the 25' rolls.  No issues on curves, even 22".  I use yellow glue and just put a weight on it till it dries.  Very quiet and easy to pull up and realign, if needed.  I swear by it.

 

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Posted by loathar on Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:22 PM

 CTValleyRR wrote:
Just a hunch:  it looks like people who use adhesives to hold their track in place like it, and those who use nails hate it....

Nope. I used caulk on mine. I've got a 2.5% grade. One side of it is cork, the other side is WS foam. As soon as the train hits the WS, the noise goes up about 100%. If it didn't run through my big mountain, I'd rip it up and replace it.

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Posted by fireman216 on Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:48 PM

Cork...dries out and will crumble...that's the fact

 

Foam..never dries out....that's the fact

 

Use what works for you....that's the fact 

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Posted by Robby P. on Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:27 PM
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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:17 PM

Worked for me:

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Posted by highhood63 on Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:35 PM

I first found out about this the same time I found out about  Woodland Scenics Mod-U-Rail system which I talked about in this thread 

http://cs.trains.com/forums/1386457/ShowPost.aspx 

I was amazed, nay astounded how dead quiet two big -9's were as they headed down my friends pike. I asked what the deal was and he showed me a strip of the road bed and a bit of the Sub-terrain system.  Of course the two Rivet counters that were with me were just as disdainful of the Foam Roadbed as they were the Mod-U-Rail system. I saw a a nice looking quiet, and most importantly functional Railroad.

I will be using it the very next time I lay track.

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Posted by larak on Friday, March 28, 2008 12:01 AM

Works fine for me as well. But - after ballasting it's not much quieter than cork. I use latex caulk and pins to hold it down then to the same with the track (removing pins when set of course).

Never had a problem on 36-24" curves, 2.1% grades or anywhere else as long as I pinned it. It will try to lay a little unevenly on tight curves until the caulk sets but the pins keep it flat. I have a total of well over 300 feet now with no regrets. The larger sheets are nice for turnouts etc too.

This is 24" radius on a 2% grade: the section has since been fully "sceniced" and ballasted - still runs fine.

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