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BOWSER KIT MIKADO 2-8-2

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BOWSER KIT MIKADO 2-8-2
Posted by BAYOUMAN on Friday, February 15, 2008 8:47 PM

      GOOD EVENING, THINKING OF BUILDING A BOWSER MIKADO KIT. WANT TO INSTALL DCC AND SOUND. WANT TO INCLUDE AS MUCH DETAIL AS I CAN. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IT WORTH THE EFFERT ( CAN IT BE BUILT TO RUN AS GOOD AS STORE BOUGHT ?? )

                                                                        THANKS, ED

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Posted by ICRR1964 on Friday, February 15, 2008 9:06 PM

Ed,

You have to decide in the end if you want to do this or not. The bowser kits are decent and can be painted up and detailed easy. Yes it is work, some like the RTR models with all the bells and whistles. Other prefer to build and convert their own.

As I said, I think the Bowser kits are pretty decent kits, they run good, but not quite as good as the BLI and some of the other loco's that are RTR. You decide, if you like to tinker and do it yourself, then go for it!

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Friday, February 15, 2008 9:18 PM
...and please turn off the caps lock.

Jay 

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Posted by locoi1sa on Friday, February 15, 2008 9:31 PM
Yes they can be made to run as good and much better than RTR locos. Even with the DC71 motor that comes with the kit.

 I pray every day I break even, Cause I can really use the money!

 I started with nothing and still have most of it left!

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Posted by jerryl on Friday, February 15, 2008 9:38 PM
Most of the newer steam come with all wheel pickup which would be prefered with sound. Bowser picks up from one side of the engine & the other side of the tender. For best results you should install pickup shoes on both loco & tender.
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Posted by loathar on Friday, February 15, 2008 9:44 PM
Steam loco kits are fun and well worth the money. The finished product will depend on your modeling skills. They're pretty EZ if you take your time.
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Posted by gmcrail on Friday, February 15, 2008 10:34 PM

I know the Bowser USRA Pacific (4-6-2) is a great kit, which can be made to run very quietly and smoothly.  The new open-frame motors they have are really nice, and run as quietly and easily as a can motor.  The brushes are isolated from the frame, so a DCC insdtallation should be very easy.  There's plenty of room inside the boiler casting for all the electronics you need, and the tender is very roomy, as well.  The Mikado is available only as a Deluxe kit, which means they have all the holes drilled for all the detail parts they include.  The only tools you need are some files, a screwdriver, a pair of needle-nose pliers, and maybe a light hobby hammer.  It is definitely worth the effort!

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Friday, February 15, 2008 10:42 PM

Once you get a Bowser kit built, tuned and painted properly, they are more than worth the effort.Big Smile [:D] They'll outlast any BLI/PCM, P2K, Bachmann, Rivarossi, etc., steam engine, and maybe even you. I've built four, and although most are still in need of some tuning, they're all very nice, and pretty smooth runners.Big Smile [:D]

gmcrail, that's one nice looking Pacific! I'm getting more and more tempted to get another one of their kits, which will probably be either the L-1 or USRA 2-8-2s. I'm leaning more toward the L-1, but those medium sized USRAs look pretty good too.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by loathar on Friday, February 15, 2008 11:42 PM
 gmcrail wrote:

I know the Bowser USRA Pacific (4-6-2) is a great kit, which can be made to run very quietly and smoothly.  The new open-frame motors they have are really nice, and run as quietly and easily as a can motor.  The brushes are isolated from the frame, so a DCC insdtallation should be very easy.  There's plenty of room inside the boiler casting for all the electronics you need, and the tender is very roomy, as well.  The Mikado is available only as a Deluxe kit, which means they have all the holes drilled for all the detail parts they include.  The only tools you need are some files, a screwdriver, a pair of needle-nose pliers, and maybe a light hobby hammer.  It is definitely worth the effort!

A rivit tool and extra bag of rivits wouldn't hurt either.Wink [;)]

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:24 AM

 loathar wrote:
A rivit tool and extra bag of rivits wouldn't hurt either.Wink [;)]

A riveting tool is provided with every Bowser kit.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:08 AM

If you go with the Bowser PRR L-1, you can fit it with a Lines West tender and install any electronics you want with room to spare.

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

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Posted by BAYOUMAN on Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:57 AM

        Good morning, thanks for the info I feel more at ease now. I did talk to Bowser, was informed the engines will be back ordered till this summer. Well I will put in my order, I guess Monday. Thanks again and I will bore you to death with my progress.  Ed

                                                                                                                                          

 

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:00 PM

 davidmbedard wrote:
Make sure you determine the stall current before you purchase a decoder.

The stall current of the stock DC-71 motors is around 2 amps, but they shouldn't draw anymore than 0.15-0.25 amps running free.

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