Y'mean someone actually modeled it?
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1079998852039019157SHvAky
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I found the thread. http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1111318/ShowPost.aspx
We never did hear how it turned out.
Steemtrayn, I've heard rumors about a submerged steam loco in southern Jersey for years. That doesn't look like the top of a steam dome to me though, plus other features should be visible as well. Can you see beneath the surface?
Nelson
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A steamer in a lake... I guess I missed that one. However, I have heard of locos sinking off into soft ground, falling off of bridges during derailments and sinking into the mud. I guess there have also been those that sank on barges in rough weather. Like they say though, to each their own.
Tracklayer
steemtrayn wrote:Y'mean someone actually modeled it?http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1079998852039019157SHvAky
Hello
Steam Freak that is the thread I was looking for could not remember the title. It was Master of Big Sky Blue looking for a 4-4-0 for his lake.
SteemTrayn if there is one thing I learned form this site there is a prototype for everything and somone will model it.
Master of Big Sky Blue if you read this could let us know how is going.
Thanks for the help Frank
This is an interesting concept. I re-read the original thread and the link to the old one. I guess I didn't really understand it the first time I read it. Now knowing that sinking a train would require alot of water medium, could you simply cut the model shell to reproduce the depth? This would still require 1" or more medium? Maybe add the scenery and effect to make it appear to be a new derailment? The engine not being completly submerged, perhaps people in the water attempting to rescue the crew, an oil slick, etc...
I think this is a very cool idea. I'd love to see pictures when it's done.
sparkyjay31 wrote: This is an interesting concept. I re-read the original thread and the link to the old one. I guess I didn't really understand it the first time I read it. Now knowing that sinking a train would require alot of water medium, could you simply cut the model shell to reproduce the depth? This would still require 1" or more medium? Maybe add the scenery and effect to make it appear to be a new derailment? The engine not being completly submerged, perhaps people in the water attempting to rescue the crew, an oil slick, etc...I think this is a very cool idea. I'd love to see pictures when it's done.
I'd be interested to see how he did it. Instead of using a lot of resin (or whatever) to fill a deep hole, another option would be to put a layer of thin glass or clear plastic over the open hole, then pour your water resin over that to create ripple effects, etc. Not sure how that would look with light refracting differently through the glass then open air beneath, but it might be worth a try.
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SteamFreak wrote: Steemtrayn, I've heard rumors about a submerged steam loco in southern Jersey for years.
Steemtrayn, I've heard rumors about a submerged steam loco in southern Jersey for years.
I remember seing photos of that one, or 2 actually. They were on a steamship that sank in the mid 1800s. They were the strange 2-2-2 with drive wheels around 10' diameter. They are sunk deep, too bad they can not be salvaged and put on display.
George In Midcoast Maine, 'bout halfway up the Rockland branch
G Paine wrote: SteamFreak wrote: Steemtrayn, I've heard rumors about a submerged steam loco in southern Jersey for years. I remember seing photos of that one, or 2 actually. They were on a steamship that sank in the mid 1800s. They were the strange 2-2-2 with drive wheels around 10' diameter. They are sunk deep, too bad they can not be salvaged and put on display.
I think this is like the P-38 Lightening " Glacier Girl " that was taken out of the Greenland ice. All it takes is someone with a dream and lots and lots of money. Someday, maybe, these old loco's will get that kind of attention.
sparkyjay31 wrote:There is a 4-6-2 Pacific P-2b # 3666 currently residing at the bottom of the Piscataqua River on the New Hampshire and Maine border. It went down in 1939 killing the crew.
Those sentences just look so funny. I've never heard of a steam locomotive "going down", steamship yes, steam loco no.
When a loco goes down who's required to go with it? The engineer, the condutor, the fireman ? Seems we should know this, you know for prototypical ops.
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Submerged steam - interesting thought. Here's a better one. Drop a diesel in the lake and run steam.
Conrail5 wrote: sparkyjay31 wrote:There is a 4-6-2 Pacific P-2b # 3666 currently residing at the bottom of the Piscataqua River on the New Hampshire and Maine border. It went down in 1939 killing the crew. Those sentences just look so funny. I've never heard of a steam locomotive "going down", steamship yes, steam loco no. When a loco goes down who's required to go with it? The engineer, the condutor, the fireman ? Seems we should know this, you know for prototypical ops.
I guess I used the "went down" statement because it fell off a rather large and high bridge and fell to the bottom af an inlet of a rather large and deep Atlantic Ocean. So I thought the phrase "went down" would be appropriate.
The steamer at the bottom of a lake or stream could be modeled by using a picture instead of a real or junk model. Any type of equipment or ship wreck could be modeled the same way. Most lakes are dark in color and any junk at the bottom could be seen but not clearly if it was fairly deep. This could be done with a dark picture that would be more of a shadow looking type of picture. The image would have to be merged into the scene and not be obvious unless you looked into the scene looking for the wreck.
We could use the magic of Digital Pictures.
What about a scene of the N&W J611 upside down on the banks of the Big Sandy River with a recovery crew salvaging the loco and carriages ? Would certainly be a talking point on anyones MR .
Warren
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