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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by rda1964 I had forgotten about the vise grips and hammer...doubtless to align and superdetail 'blue box kits'. ;) I can't help but think when someone posts: 'I have X dozen or Y hundred Athern cars' they are separated from 'have your layout built by the professionals' only by the size of their checking accounts. The attitudes are identical, no interest in growing in the hobby. Fergie has a point when he says: 'Not everyone has the ability to be a modeller'. I agree. Few, if any, of us enter model railroading at an advanced stage. However, everyone has the ability to develope the skills to be a modeler. Not to aspire and act to do so is to miss the point. I can't think of any avocative interest you enter a novice intending to remain one. Athern is the most common entry point, a function the company has served well. I hope and expect they will continue to do so. As the first step into the hobby Athern is necessary. I can't imagine not taking successive steps. Ramdy [/quote] Rather an elitist opinion. Actually both rda1964 posts are more in tune with the "Athearn-bashing SIG" that infects the Atlas forum.[:(] Many model railroaders who have a large fleet of Athearn [ and MDC ] cars, are not necessarily some kind of unskilled sub-species....quite a few have excellent car-forwarding operation based layouts....many have great scenery, or very well done scratchbuilt or kitbashed structures....many are good at weathering.....many have very well done wiring / electrical systems, or that rare feature of working signalling....some have several of the above. It is not necessary to take an interest in " upgrading one's skills" in every single aspect of the hobby to enjoy it. If it were so, everyone would have become another Mel Thornburgh in the 40's and 50's, and Japanese brass would have never come along ![:0] I suppose an elitist might criticize John Allen's Baker couplers, Bruce Chubb's undetailed FT diesels, Frank Ellison's 3rd rail....all of which were in use long after "greater skill & upgrade" stuff was readily available, but that would really just reinforce my point....telling people what they should and shouldn't do in the hobby is counterproductive.[V] And , rda1964, if you cannot think of "an avocative interest you enter intending to stay a novice", you have obviously found one...for you, it would be spelling.[:D] Happy New Year, anyway, "Ramdy" ![:o)] regards from an Athearn fan, Mike
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