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9u6n3r, <br /> <br />Of course it all depends on what you are pulling. The condition of the trucks, weights etc. etc. But given all the variables I would say at least 3 to 4 times as much pulling ability. In my case the Alpine and Terlingua R.R. has about a 4.5% grade at one point. When I got my first Mike I was really shocked that it could only haul five 36' MDC Boxcars and a Caboose up the grade. With the addition of Kato special "traction driver" the Mike pulled 13 Boxcars and a Caboose. The driver set is available from Kato, they are shown on the Kato Website. If you go that route I would strongly reccomend getting a package of extra tires. The replacement driver set I put into use last May or so wore out a couple of weeks ago and I had to replace the tires. To me it is a "must do" for that great running engine! <br />Jack
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