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Greg, <br />You are correct, the Kato "Mikes" are great also. I have two of them and once you put a set of "Traction Drivers" on them they are pretty decent pullers. They work great for my through trains but are a bit heavy looking for my "on layout" freights. But the new 2-8-0's are the first small to medium steam engines to not only look good but run and pull well. You may be interested to know that both have the Kato style "floating" main driver square bearings that allow the drivers to sort of equalize. So I guess us N scalers owe Kato .....BIG TIME. <br />Jack
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