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i like the cheapo Bachman stuff. people buy it, then virtually give it away in disgust. i take these rejects and use them for parts. it is amazing just how many bits and pieces one can salvage from these locomotives and reuse them in scratch building. as far as i can ascertain, there is no other use for the low dollar, low end Bachman steam locomotives. i am strictly steam era, so i cannot comment on their low buck diesel locomotive offerings. oh yes, i do not reuse the Bachman motors or gears. they are strictly landfill plenty of coal, enough water, good steam pressure. keep 'em rollin'.. tom
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