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Posted by riogrande5761 on Sunday, June 27, 2021 5:14 PM

I've used OSB on 3 previous layouts and it's been fine; it typically been pretty cheap - at least until the pandemice, but I bought enough to pretty much complete my layout before prices skyrocketed.  I don't lay track on OSB, but sandwich Homasote to it or cork.

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, June 26, 2021 11:56 AM

OSB is an odd choice for underlayment but if it works for you, great. I use beaded foam, not really that stable (uncrushable) till I fill in  the spaces between the cork with plaster cloth, after that it is stronger than I originaly thought (a 350lb friend came over on my last layout and he had issues with movement and put he full weight on a section, I said nothing fiqureing I would fix the damage after he left, no damage at all). That is why I went that way this time.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, June 25, 2021 4:04 PM

I haven't mounted them yet. Probably a small plywood or wood panel.  I just finished the fence so hoping to get some hobby time now weekly.  Last week I get much of the upper deck leveled and screwed in place for the main yard.  I found some 7/16" OSB that was under my nose and didn't see it which let me extend the yard to the helix area.  Been resisting buying a sheet at Lowes for current highway robbery prices.  I did get all the wires run and soldered to the frogs in the area covered by the upper yard while it was easy to get to.  Now all I have to do is screw in the wires to the Hex and connect it to the bus.  I also need to order some on/off kill switches for those staging track so I can connect them to the main buss too.

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, June 25, 2021 10:55 AM

riogrande5761

Awesome.  I just ordered my 5th Hex Frog Juicer along with a PR4 for decoder programming from Litchfield Station.  Four dollar shipping.  Figure I'll need 2 or 3 more before done.

 

That is who I used. How did you mount the panel, foam tape or screws, my is just hanging right now  but I have started tidying up.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, June 25, 2021 10:02 AM

Awesome.  I just ordered my 5th Hex Frog Juicer along with a PR4 for decoder programming from Litchfield Station.  Four dollar shipping.  Figure I'll need 2 or 3 more before done.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:35 PM

Well I just installed my first hex frog juicer, no issues I can detect and it has made my runaround in that area work flawlessly now.

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, June 12, 2021 11:28 AM

Well just ordered the rest of the juicers and a few other things from Linchfield Station, great prices and $4 shipping. Last order came faster than advised.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:40 PM

Well a slight problem with the first install, even though it worked fine before on a siding, it would not work on the juicer. Found out that a gap was missing which of course I then cut in the wrong place. So a cut and a soulder bridge fixed the juicer problem and of course I had to repair my miss cut. All is fine now. Always knew I didn't follow correct proticol on that siding with a switch in it but it worked till I put in the juicer. Learned with DCC, no short cuts.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, June 10, 2021 10:20 AM

My layout is all foam construction which is why I kept with the Caboose ground throws instead of going with Tortoise machines.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Thursday, June 10, 2021 6:24 AM

In my case, the turrnouts are almost all Peco electrofrog so they have a built in frog wire, so that helps make it easier.  In my case I want to lay down the wood over the top of staging so needed to get some steps finished below while it's easy to get to it.  I plan to twist and tin the other ends so they will be easy to insert into the frog juicer terminals.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, June 9, 2021 8:52 PM

I put wires on all my frogs when I did my other wiring. I have no stageing tracks but do have tracks around my turntable that need the swiches, right now they are just wired to the main.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, June 9, 2021 2:11 PM

Yes

Cool.  I'm still working on the fence but snuck in some time a week ago to solder wires to all of the frogs in one part of staging - that way all I have to do is attach them to the Hex juicers and the juicers to the buss.

I still need to order some on/off switches for the staging tracks so I can connect them to the bus, and kill power to any of 15 staging tracks.  Probably have a couple more weekends on the fence yet.  It was in the 90's last weekend - *whew*  Dead

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:51 AM

Well ordered 4 mono juicers just to play around, the price was good, only paid about $2 more per juicer than on the hex so less invested at this time so will experiment.

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, May 28, 2021 5:34 PM

I was thinking not so much of "working through the pain", but that the work lessens the chance of getting pain.

Sometimes I go up and down ladders most of the day (hanging and wiring recessed lights).  Sometimes I have to be on the floor and up, over and over.  And etc.  And there's moving tool boxes.  Lots of assorted exercises and movements.

The foreman on my job said that he and his crew were going to take today off, along with the weekend.  I felt only slightly guilty when I joined them in their shirking.  The owner was fine--he's liking us a lot.  So, no problems with him.  Of course, there's the lack of billable hours, but I am enjoying sitting on my butt a LOT.

And, of course, playing with trains.

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, May 28, 2021 8:13 AM

7j43k
I am 75. <SNIP> But going back to work seems to clear it up.

I have been retired for over a year now, but working on my own house full-time.

I can honestly say that "working construction" while retired has made me feel a lot better.

-Kevin

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, May 28, 2021 8:02 AM

My wife had one of the L4 or L5 removed many years ago, I forget which, and she has had sciatica on and off for years.  She was rear ended in late 2019 and started seeing a chiropractor, mainly becaues physio doctors wouldn't be able to see her for at least a month after the accident.  She found they have been majorly helpful.  And hip pain she had had for over 20 years disappeared almost completely after the treatment.  The accident affected her neck however and she may eventually need surgery.  She still hasn't settled the medical part of the accident claim; it is awaiting one more CT or MRI, I forget which, to finally have her lawyer make the claim.  He did file what ever was need before the 2 year deadline to give time for the additional evaluation.

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Posted by 7j43k on Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:45 PM

I work in construction.  Not management, but "jolly worker".

I am 75.

I found that when I'm out of work, I get sciatica.  I have considered yoga for those times.

But going back to work seems to clear it up.

 

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:11 PM

I worked with a neurosurgeon who named his sailboat L 4-5.  You don't need any extra joints to have problems. 

They (all spine surgeons) used to laugh when they fused a joint in the lower back or neck, and say  "he'll be back in a couple years"  because the fused joint puts abnormal pressure on the other joints. 

People with neck problems tend to have low back problems and visa versa. 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Thursday, May 27, 2021 4:39 PM

Anyway, the back injury my wife had was at the sacroiliac joint.  I had never heard of it before.  She is improving.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:20 AM

Same here.  Many years back I first hurt my back carrying something around 80 lbs into the house.  The second time I was working at the Indiana Geological Survey sanding tidalite sedimentary rocks with a belt sander, which pulls at you while you are leaning over and felt something "give".  Next thing I knew I could barely walk.  That laid me up for days.  It seems like once you hurt your back, it's easier to pull it again.    The doctor told me if I did stretching excersices, it would help prevent reinjury.  It has helped but I've still pulled it a number of time since.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:50 AM

Been there, done that, injury wise. 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:45 AM

She was bending over to pick something up.  Appearently not a disc thankfully.  I can't remember how to pronounce what it was called.  She's got some meds and some PT and seems to be improving.  So hopefully she can hold the level against the post (something light) and I can get to setting several more posts for the fence soon.

I'm gonna try to get in a little layout time this holiday weekend, which means running wires from the frogs to the hex Frog Juicers in staging.  That way I can get the upper deck in place and then run the mainline subroad bed to meet the part already installed.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:12 PM

BigDaddy

 

 
rrebell
How did that happen.

 

In addition to being  HIPA violation, maybe it's not suitable for a family forum Devil

I hope she feels better soon.  Try physical therapy before greedy neurosurgeons.

 

You can talk about things that happen to you and family, we are not doctors, just concerned model railroaders.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:22 PM

rrebell
How did that happen.

In addition to being  HIPA violation, maybe it's not suitable for a family forum Devil

I hope she feels better soon.  Try physical therapy before greedy neurosurgeons.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:56 PM

How did that happen.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 2:05 PM

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Well if I lived nearby, I would help with the fence.

No worries.  I think we have the hardest part done.  Seven of the posts are cemented in, 4 more to go and 3 of those holes are done and ready to set the posts.  Last hole was augered but needs cleaned/dug out a bit more.

But now it looks like my wife has hurt her back so, possibly bad, so keep her in your prayers.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 11:47 AM

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It is DCC only. Are you happy with them, any problems?

 

 

Layout construction has been on hold since early April due family obligations and house projects (currently working on setting 11 fence posts and then getting the fence put up next few weekends).

I have 4 hex so far and the next thing I need to do is get the frog wires run for them.   I estimate I'll need seven of them, possibly eight, in total.

 

Well if I lived nearby, I would help with the fence.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 8:31 AM

rrebell

It is DCC only. Are you happy with them, any problems?

Layout construction has been on hold since early April due family obligations and house projects (currently working on setting 11 fence posts and then getting the fence put up next few weekends).

I have 4 hex so far and the next thing I need to do is get the frog wires run for them.   I estimate I'll need seven of them, possibly eight, in total.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 12:14 AM

Need exactly 4 hex type for the layout.

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