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[quote user="PennsyNut"] I find this forum interesting. I prefer manual, but there are places where a machine is necessary. On the back of the layout. So, why Tortoise? They are slow action and IMHO that means the front of the layout. But you can reach the front.??? Then, I went online to find prices.Kato $13.50,Atlas $13.95,Peco $15.99 and tortoise $21.95. All retail. Then, you shop for the best prices. So, this may help some. It sure helped me. Use the cheapest on the back and manual in front. In a yard, say on a lower level, then again, the cheaper would do fine. Another factor is current draw. And if tortoise uses DC, then why not use DC for all. Any old DC power pack would do. Of course, I can be wrong. But this is only info for thought. <div style="clear:both;"> </div> [/quote] I have had very little issues with tortoise motors, all have been operator error, or physical damage caused by outside forces, which could happen to any switch machine.  My club has some that have been in service for 10+ years.  They draw very little power, and are very straight forward to hook up.    I would not use the cheapest thing possible at the back.  I would use the most reliable, so I only have to make the journey to the location twice, once when I install it, once when I tear the layout down.
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