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I searched around the locomotive with a multimeter and found a potential short on the bottom motor clip.  I had already taped one end of the clip but not the other.  Dont know if this was the issue.  I can find no other grounds at this time.  I plan to solder leads to the motor clips and route them though the shell under the dynamic brake fan (it is removable and has a dime sized hole under it).  I will use this to check for continuity between the track and the motor with the shell on and no decoder present. Mark, I know about the CV 29 thing, but I think it was disabled.  I didnt write the calculated CV 29 value down, so I cannot confirm this (decoder is dead).   I also havent taken the time to go back and correct the settings on all of my locomotives yet.  When I find they are acting strangely I do change CV 29 to disable DC operation. Andrew
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