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Splicing two cab bus cables

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Splicing two cab bus cables
Posted by bearman on Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:58 AM

Is there some way to splice two NCE RJ12 7 foot cab bus cables to get a 14 foot cable or do I have to replace the 7 foot cable with an RJ12 40 foot cable?

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Posted by mfm37 on Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:48 AM

Yes. You need a 6P6C straight through connector. Any place that sells/installs data systems should have them. They will have the cables too. Your choice.

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Posted by bearman on Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:58 AM

Thanks, Martin.  I will be on the hunt today.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:41 AM

Are you looking for the 4-wire cable or the 6-wire cable?

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Posted by bearman on Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:47 AM

6 wire and after doing some more net surfing I think I know what I can do about this.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:06 AM

 If you don't want to make your own, Monoprice has all sorts of lengths and colors available, and the price is right. They offer both voice and data versions - you want the data ones.

 Here for example is a plain grey 6p6pc data cable, 14 feet, for a whopping 97 cents.  https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=940

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Posted by gregc on Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:15 AM

doesn't the cab bus require only 4 conductors?

the outside 2 conductors are for providing track power

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Posted by bearman on Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:23 AM

I'm not sure, Greg, all I know is that I need a 6 wire cable.  NCE is clear on that.  However, I do know that the cable I need also supplies power to the track.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:24 AM

gregc

doesn't the cab bus require only 4 conductors?

the outside 2 conductors are for providing track power

 

The outside wires are used only for the Power Cab.  The 5amp system only uses the middle 4 wires.  The outside two are "reserved for future use".  You only need 6wires between the Power Cab and its PCP.  Any other cab (Pro, 04,05,06) only has a 6p4c plug on it.

You can make your own cables with 6p6c (RJ12 modular plugs) and a roll of Cat5e.  The crimper can be found for less than $30.  BNM hobbies sells a tester that works pretty well, just dont use it with 12vdc plugged into the back of the UTP Embarrassed

You can also use two wall plates as a cable tester.  Plug cable into both wall plates, check continuity with a multivolt meter pole between each screw on the back on of one plate (this should be an open circuit), and between each wall plate (should be a complete circuit).  When you hold the two plugs together, with the locking tabs up, you should have the same color pattern left to right in each plug.  It does take practice to get the connectors right.  

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Posted by bearman on Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:45 PM

AHA, I think I know what the problem is.  I did not mention, and I should have mentioned, that I am using the NCE Power Cab.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:03 PM

bearman

AHA, I think I know what the problem is.  I did not mention, and I should have mentioned, that I am using the NCE Power Cab.

 

This is so you can keep the PowerCab tethered?

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Posted by bearman on Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:14 PM

It has to be tethered to the power panel via the left socket because those 2 extra wires supply the power to the rails.  The right socket is 4 wire for an extra cab and I also have another panel wired to the main power panel which can be used for two more cabs.  I do have an extra cab and it can be unplugged from any of the other three sockets and plugged into another of the sockets without shutting the system down.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:11 PM

So what exactly are you looking to do?  Add mobility to the PowerCab or are you adding additional UTPs?

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Posted by bearman on Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:13 PM

Actually all I want to do is extend the tether.  But, I think I have the problem solved.

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Posted by mfm37 on Sunday, June 11, 2017 6:41 PM

I mentioned 6P6C couplers because:

1. I wasn't sure which he needed, and they work equally well with 4 conductor cables

2. Straight through 6 conductor couplers are much easier to come by.

Now that I am aware that it is a Powercab, extending the cable may not be the best practice. Since track power is carried through the outside (1 and 6) wires, there will be additional voltage drop if that cable is extended too far. Someone with more experience of Powercabs will need to chime in on this.

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