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Southern Pacific Passenger Car Re-Lettering: When Did It Actually Begin?

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, November 15, 2022 3:01 AM

WILSON BILLINGSLEY
I haven't had any luck in trying to find photographs that might help.

I wonder if this would contain the photographic evidence you require?
 
 
I note that there are a previous 5 volumes, as well.
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Posted by Colorado Ray on Monday, November 14, 2022 6:08 PM

 

An excerpt from Bear's link:

"Until June 22, 1946, the standard for letterboards was SOUTHERN PACIFIC LINES and afterward SOUTHERN PACIFIC.  Evidence from photos suggests it was done pretty quickly, as it was a corporate name change. By the start of 1948 you would have been hard pressed to find many "LINES" cars. SP took its passenger car appearance seriously in those days. Someone on the list may have done a date-specific survey, which would  be more exact.

There is no absolute date when the last passenger car was relettered, but the "NAME" trains were done very quickly, with the other cars being done within two years or so.

 

Tony Thompson"

 

I doubt you'll find any better infomration than this.  Tony is one of the leading authourities on things SP.

 

Ray

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Posted by WILSON BILLINGSLEY on Sunday, November 13, 2022 11:56 PM

I already looked at that page. What I'm looking for are maybe photographs that show when the re-lettering of the streamlined "Daylight" cars and also the heavyweight cars actually began to get re-lettered. I haven't had any luck in trying to find photographs that might help.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Saturday, November 12, 2022 4:02 PM

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Southern Pacific Passenger Car Re-Lettering: When Did It Actually Begin?
Posted by WILSON BILLINGSLEY on Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:37 AM

When did the Southern Pacific Railroad actually begin re-lettering its passenger (including head-end) cars, both streamlined and heavyweight, from "Southern Pacific Lines" to "Southern Pacific" only? I know that the lettering rule for just "Southern Pacific" was adopted in 1946 and that the GS-4s and GS-5s used on the "Daylight" trains started being re-lettered to "Southern Pacific" at least as early as October of that year, but I don't know when the SP also started relettering its cars to just read "Southern Pacific" on the letterboard. I assume that it was also started around the same time, so I just want to be sure.

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