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Steam Locomotive for Small 1930s Coal Hauler

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Posted by Doughless on Sunday, April 18, 2021 8:28 AM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL

 

 
Doughless

How many loaded coal hoppers would a 2-6-0 or a 2-6-2 haul up a 1.5% to 2% grade in the 1930's?

 

 

 

Not many, and at least in these parts I have no information to suggest such locos were used in that kind of service.

I have a series of photos, taken of a mine branch run on the WESTERN MARYLAND in the early 50's.

70 loaded 50/55 ton hoppers, two large modern 2-8-0's on the front, two RS-1 Diesels and another 2-8-0 in the middle, and two more 2-8-0's at the rear. Or, about 10 cars per loco to handle combined 2% grades and 22 degree or sharper curves (think 36" radius in HO).

These were modern 2-8-0's with over 60,000 lbs of tractive effort.

In fact, the use of 2-6-0's or 2-6-2's in this part of the country for any use appears to have been very limited after WWI.

Sheldon

 

I figured the 2-6-0 and 2-6-2 were a bit light in the pants for coal hauling on grades.  They were mainly flatland locos, IIRC, and, the 2-6-2 is even called the "Prairie", not that its the reason for it.

Since the Bachmann Spectrum 2-8-0 is probably the best steam locomotive model for smaller layouts, I'd pick that.

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Posted by Late4Dinner on Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:17 AM

OP here. To update those that care, I have given up on the table layout,   and coal as well. I never considered a wye on the shelf layout. Where I am now: 1930s shelf and switching layout. I'll probably go with a few classic industries.  Engine will be turned either by turntable, hand of God, or not at all. Since I'm freelancing I'll buy a locomotive that looks good to me, because I've learned from this thread there will be an expert that tells me it's not correct, and an expert that will tell me it is. 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Sunday, April 18, 2021 12:07 PM

I'll buy a locomotive that looks good to me!

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, April 18, 2021 12:31 PM

Late4Dinner

OP here. To update those that care, I have given up on the table layout,   and coal as well. I never considered a wye on the shelf layout. Where I am now: 1930s shelf and switching layout. I'll probably go with a few classic industries.  Engine will be turned either by turntable, hand of God, or not at all. Since I'm freelancing I'll buy a locomotive that looks good to me, because I've learned from this thread there will be an expert that tells me it's not correct, and an expert that will tell me it is. 

 

As well you should, opinions were offered based on the criteria you set.

In Many ways small layouts are more challenging than moderate sized ones.

Sheldon

    

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Posted by Lastspikemike on Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:09 PM

Late4Dinner

OP here. To update those that care, I have given up on the table layout,   and coal as well. I never considered a wye on the shelf layout. Where I am now: 1930s shelf and switching layout. I'll probably go with a few classic industries.  Engine will be turned either by turntable, hand of God, or not at all. Since I'm freelancing I'll buy a locomotive that looks good to me, because I've learned from this thread there will be an expert that tells me it's not correct, and an expert that will tell me it is. 

 

We care or we wouldn't post.

I have a very nice Proto Heritage 0-8-0 switcher (a 0-6-0 is also out there) which is a very nice locomotive. 

0-4-0 is a classic light switcher.

Move your plausible era up a bit and you could run a small early diesel switcher as well. I think diesel switchers came first. Another attractive option is running small industrial locomotives of which a number are out there. Walthers just released two production runs of tiny 0-4-0 industrial diesels.  

If you can't find room to run trains then switching, especially to industries, can be very enjoyable. With the right planning you can also run a few road locomotives in and out of scene to represent the start and end points of a classification yard.

For locomotive addicts I've even seen examples of engine servicing layouts with minimal rolling stock and plenty of motive power...of all sizes of course. 

Alyth Yard

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Posted by Tin Can II on Tuesday, April 20, 2021 11:49 AM

Late4Dinner

OP here. To update those that care, I have given up on the table layout,   and coal as well. I never considered a wye on the shelf layout. Where I am now: 1930s shelf and switching layout. I'll probably go with a few classic industries.  Engine will be turned either by turntable, hand of God, or not at all. Since I'm freelancing I'll buy a locomotive that looks good to me, because I've learned from this thread there will be an expert that tells me it's not correct, and an expert that will tell me it is. 

 

Just a thought.  A wye can be built with one leg on a folding shelf that protrudes when in operation.  Electrical and/or physical constraints are wise to keep equipment from hitting the floor.

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