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Small Town Slaughter House

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Small Town Slaughter House
Posted by RedSkin on Monday, December 27, 2004 7:23 AM
Well I've been looking for some information on a Small Town Slaughter house located in the Midwest, USA set in the 1950s. I've been looking for photos or anything. I would like to model this industry on my small layout. Any Suggestion or Information would be helpful
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Posted by orsonroy on Monday, December 27, 2004 9:51 AM
Where in the Midwest? In Illinois, there really wasn't anything like small town slaughterhouses, because of how many large houses were in and around the state (Chicago, Peoria, Decatur, St Louis, Dubuque, Paducah). There were small town meat processing plants, but they'd receive frozen animal parts from the larger plants. I'm modelling Bloomington, IL, and there was a Cudahy plant in town. They made bacon, and received frozen sides from the Chicago plant, which specialized in other pork products.

Ray Breyer

Modeling the NKP's Peoria Division, circa 1943

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Posted by RedSkin on Monday, December 27, 2004 12:07 PM
Thank you for the info. My layout is going to be a freelance branchline. Based some where in Oklahoma or in that region.. I'm look'n for Plant that would have small stock pens and stuff like that. I've found some kits but walthers doesn't have the one I want in stock so instead of Scratch building and think I'm gonna try to Kitbash some thing, due to my limited skill level. I was look'n for some photos of a small operation. I saw an Article in RMC Nov 04, I got interested in the industry, but since I'm only doing a 4X8 layout, I don't have enough room for a large scale Plant. Thanks Again for the Help
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Posted by orsonroy on Monday, December 27, 2004 1:14 PM
Both Walthers and Kibri make smallish slaughterhouses in HO scale, and both include unloading chutes. While both kits are pretty large, they won't completely take over a 4x8. If you still want to "kitbash", use the photos of the slaughterhouses in the Walthers catalog to build your own out of DPM modular wall sections (although I don't think it'll save you much if any cash).

Ray Breyer

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 27, 2004 7:40 PM
I recall looking at various slaugter houses around the USA and nothing is "Small" If you are trying to model stockyards for either resting and feeding in transit or.. a final stopping place before they hit the kill floor. Model it in any size you want to.

I have difficulty remembering one particular house in the west, but that one took up about 200 yards of road frontage and perhaps three times the distance deep. There was room for about 6 of us reefers to load and perhaps a equal number of livestock runners. The killfloor and processing plant buildings were one unit. The Walthers Slaughter house is very close to this unit. Except that the cattle ramp is different and the prototype building is precast concrete only two stories high with a "Tower" for whatever was needed in there.

I say pick your space and model it no matter how small or big. I encourage you to decide for yourself and have fun with this project. I have several threads related to my experiences with the Beef Industry that may help you out a little bit.
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Posted by jdolan on Monday, December 27, 2004 7:54 PM
I built one for a nephews layout, was from dyna models . It was small sized and real easy to fit on a small layout without taking over the place . Was a wooden kit and easy to biuld too.
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Posted by CBQ_Guy on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 12:34 PM
Have you seen the October and November issues of RMC mag with the two part article on Doug Harding's Decker Meat plant on his Iowa Central RR? This is a rather large facility but many facets can be scaled down, and the article gives tons of info on loads in/out and car types used, switching ops at the plant, etc.

Here's a link to Doug's layout site:

http://d.harding.home.mchsi.com/

Hope this helps . . .
"Paul [Kossart] - The CB&Q Guy" [In Illinois] ~ Modeling the CB&Q and its fictional 'Illiniwek River-Subdivision-Branch Line' in the 1960's. ~
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Posted by RockIsland on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:07 PM

In the 1970's I grew up in a small farm town in North Western Illinois.  Some summers my Dad would take me to a slaughter house located in Lena, Illinois.  It did not have train access only a truck chute.  The overall building was probably around 50 ft X 50 ft.  The large animal slaughter room was about 15 ft X 15 ft.  They would slaughter one cow or pig at a time.  The cows were brought into the slaughter chute, stunned, then they would fall onto the cart.  Hind legs chained up to a pulley track system on the ceiling and pulled up.  Then the throat was cut and while the cow was bleeding out, the skin would be removed and the carcuss cut in half.  The Government inspector would do his job and stamp the cow halves and then the cow would get pushed into the refrigerator section of the building.  This process would take about 15 to 20 minutes, then repeat with the next cow.  Pigs were let loose in the room and shot with a 22 rifle and the rest of the process was the same for the pigs.  Sorry, I don't have any more info on number of cattle pens they had and the rest of the process.

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, May 27, 2022 8:51 AM

I think the posts already submitted kinda point out the problem - a meat packing plant as small as you probably need would be too small to ship by rail. A small town back then would be more likely to have a stockpen / loading ramp for loading livestock into stock cars than to have a packing plant.

Keep in mind mechanical refrigerators capable of freezing meat or other food products were still a fairly new thing in the fifties, most reefer cars (wood or steel) were still cooled by ice, so couldn't keep things like sides of beef frozen. The animals had to be transported alive to huge stockyards (like Kansas City, Chicago, or South St. Paul) located near big slaughterhouse / meat packing plants.

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, May 27, 2022 9:09 AM

RockIsland
Sorry, I don't have any more info on number of cattle pens they had and the rest of the process.
 

That's OK, the OP will appreciate the info. After all, he has been waiting nearly 18 years for this.  Laugh

Rich

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Posted by azrail on Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:46 PM

Swift had smaller "branch" meat plants across the country, they would bring in sides of beef in meat reefers and would cut them into steaks, roasts, etc - which would supply the local stores and restaraunts.  The move to "boxed beef" in the 70s from packers like IBP led to the demise of these facilities.

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Posted by josephbw on Thursday, June 2, 2022 7:24 AM

There was one south of the town I grew up in. It was owned by the local butcher. It was very small and designed to process one cow at a time.

It was made out of concrete blocks painted white with one door at the end. The dimensions were approximately 16' x 8'.

Joe

PS. It was serviced by truck only, but there is no reason your's couldn't be rail served.

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