From the far, far reaches of the wild, wild west I am: rtpoteet
Can't help you on train names, but I will testify that there were armour-yellow pullmans at the Sunnyside Yards (New York City) during the early '50s.
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
here is the asnwer from a PRR fan who has researched this previously:
the Admiral and General were used westbound, while the Pennsylvanian and the Pennsylvania Ltd. were used eastbound for those cars coming off of the UP from LA. The service is alleged to have run from 1950 through 1957.
Andy Sperandeo MODEL RAILROADER Magazine
Sperandeo wrote:Hello R.T.,On the Union Pacific out of Ogden in 1951 you probably weren't on a "City" Streamliner at all. The "Los Angeles Limited" was then carrying the transcontinental sleeping cars on the UP and C&NW (the NorthWestern operated the UP's trains east of Omaha at that time). The PRR train connecting at Chicago was most likely the "Pennsylvanian" or the "Pennsylvania Limited," as I believe someone else mentioned. For more details, the best historical description of the post-WWII transcontinental sleeping car operations is in Joe Welsh's book, "The Pennsy Streamliners – The Blue Ribbon Fleet," published by Kalmbach in 1999.Best wishes,Andy
R.T.
Do you remember what ship you crossed the Atlantic on?
Ed
R. T. POTEET wrote:ndbprr;I think you also hit a nail; I seem to recall that mom said that we had to get off of the train in Chicago - not that we could get off of the train.
When Robert Young was trying to take over the NYC in the Mid Fifties, he had a real problem with changing trains in Chicago. He said a pig could go from coast to coast in the same car but not a human being.
Rick
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7j43k wrote: R.T.Do you remember what ship you crossed the Atlantic on?Ed
R. T.
It wasn't an idle question that I asked. I also crossed the Atlantic on the George Washington. I'm pretty sure it was on the "nasty" trip after yours. It fits the dates that I was able to turn up. The seas were certainly stormy. I lost two of my baby teeth when the ship rocked and I was thrown against the metal frame of my bunk. The compartments were a bit like steerage, as I recall, with maybe 15 mothers and children per "room"; and, as I said, everone had bunks. We had a genuine porthole to look out. I remember that I wandered up forward and watched the waves break over the bow--note that it was a pretty big ship, so that was pretty significant. Being a small boy of 6, I thought it was all just great.
Coming back 3 1/2 years later, we were on the Goethals [sp?]. Much better accomodations.
Very nice to hear your story, Ed
Must be some of that 6-degrees stuff we hear about.
My dad was assigned to SHAPE headquarters and so we spent a few not entirely awful years in Paris environs. We did the boat train too. I recall it as a straight run to Paris--maybe there was more than one train leaving--probably was. If the ship was full of dependents, that's an awful lot of passenger cars all at once.
All I remember is looking out a berth window at the passing lights at night.
Nice ta meetcha, Ed
Doing other research at the New York Shipbuilding web site if you scroll down you can download a low or hi res picture of the SS Washington being built at the Camden new jersey yard.
www.fairview.ws/beginnings/shipyard.html
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